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Créé par: MakingHistory
Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 14 mai 2023
Publié: 14 mai 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
79 500 000 $
88 000 000 $
36 500 000 $
2950 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
35 000 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Michkov, Matvei
3950 000 $
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc [Droits de RFA]
WPG
  1. Dvorak, Christian
  2. Harris, Jordan
  3. Kidney, Riley
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (FLA)
2.
MTL
ARI
  1. Hoffman, Mike
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (PIT)
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (SJS)
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4.
MTL
  1. Meier, Timo [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
He walks
NJD
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UFA - 8
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M-NTC
UFA - 4
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
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UFA - 8
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7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
C
UFA - 7
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
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UFA - 4
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950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 500 000 $$4M)
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UFA - 2
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AD, AG
RFA - 2
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897 500 $897 500 $
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RFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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DG
M-NTC
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UFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance275 000 $$275K)
DD
RFA - 1
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DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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14 mai 2023 à 18 h 47
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Why would Timo Meier go to the Habs given where they are?
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14 mai 2023 à 18 h 48
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Quoting: seanrushton
Why would Timo Meier go to the Habs given where they are?


Money
14 mai 2023 à 18 h 50
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Lmfao “he walks.” He’s an RFA only thing he’s walking to is Fitzgeralds office and signing an extension.
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14 mai 2023 à 18 h 55
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Quoting: KDev
Lmfao “he walks.” He’s an RFA only thing he’s walking to is Fitzgeralds office and signing an extension.


Offer Sheet... Canadian fans should know this well considering how they lost Jesperi Kotkaniemi.
14 mai 2023 à 18 h 55
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in what world does he walk?
14 mai 2023 à 18 h 55
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Quoting: MakingHistory
Money


Fair enough
14 mai 2023 à 18 h 58
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Quoting: Devil
in what world does he walk?


A world like this when a rebuilding team like the Sens, Sabers, or Montreal decided that 9.5m per for 7 years is a good idea for Timo because I can not see your management matching that
14 mai 2023 à 19 h 4
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Offer Sheet... Canadian fans should know this well considering how they lost Jesperi Kotkaniemi.


I’m pretty sure the offer sheet would cost 4 1st round picks.. plus this years sooo yeah that isn’t happening. Even after draft day are the habs really risking another high 1st rounder in 24 plus 3 more following that? Answer: no.
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14 mai 2023 à 19 h 6
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Quoting: MakingHistory
Money


I think you need to look at your salary cap situation? New Jersey has about $32,400,000 to Montreals $8,400,000 so New Jersey has far more money to offer Timo Meier than the Habs do.
14 mai 2023 à 19 h 8
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Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
I think you need to look at your salary cap situation? New Jersey has about $32,400,000 to Montreals $8,400,000 so New Jersey has far more money to offer Timo Meier than the Habs do.


I didn't say it was a smart idea... I asked why Timo would move and they said money
14 mai 2023 à 19 h 11
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Quoting: KDev
I’m pretty sure the offer sheet would cost 4 1st round picks.. plus this years sooo yeah that isn’t happening. Even after draft day are the habs really risking another high 1st rounder in 24 plus 3 more following that? Answer: no.


I agree... I just don't think that him to the Devils for the long term is a done deal
14 mai 2023 à 19 h 12
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I didn't say it was a smart idea... somebody asked me why Timo would move and I said because of 7x9 they are giving him


I wasn't speaking to you, But MakingHistory when he said money that the Habs don't have.
14 mai 2023 à 19 h 25
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Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
I think you need to look at your salary cap situation? New Jersey has about $32,400,000 to Montreals $8,400,000 so New Jersey has far more money to offer Timo Meier than the Habs do.

While that may be true, Habs have 20 man on that roster with that capspace, while NJD only has 12. Now I'm not saying it would be a good idea for the Habs to throw that kind of money to Meier (because I don't), but "projected cap space" doesn't tell the whole story here.
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14 mai 2023 à 19 h 27
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Quoting: KDev
I’m pretty sure the offer sheet would cost 4 1st round picks.. plus this years sooo yeah that isn’t happening. Even after draft day are the habs really risking another high 1st rounder in 24 plus 3 more following that? Answer: no.


Wouldn't include this year's as the offer sheet can't happen until July 1 so there is that. Still would be hilarious if they did it though.
14 mai 2023 à 20 h 24
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How does he “walk”?

Devils options…

1. Extend him
2. Trade him
3. Take him to arbitration
4. Qualify him
5. Let him walk

Meier’s options…

1. Play for team he wants to play for (~$68m)
2. Play for team he doesn’t want to play for (~$66.5m)
14 mai 2023 à 21 h 30
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
How does he “walk”?

Devils options…

1. Extend him
2. Trade him
3. Take him to arbitration
4. Qualify him
5. Let him walk

Meier’s options…

1. Play for team he wants to play for (~$68m)
2. Play for team he doesn’t want to play for (~$66.5m)


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Money


The tax rate in quebec is also way higher 24% province+33% federal vs 10% state +37% federal
14 mai 2023 à 21 h 44
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Kings pass. They can find a better deal for Durzi.
14 mai 2023 à 22 h 43
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Quoting: seanrushton
Offer Sheet... Canadian fans should know this well considering how they lost Jesperi Kotkaniemi.


NJ has to qualify Meier @ $10M to retain his rights prior to an offer sheet. He might sign an offer sheet for a little less money and more term, but he'll still be in the 4x1st category regardless. I'd say he's pretty safe from an offer sheet because nobody is doing that.

Quoting: KDev
Lmfao “he walks.” He’s an RFA only thing he’s walking to is Fitzgeralds office and signing an extension.


That's up to Meier. NJ's only control is qualifying him @ $10M.
He can take that and leave his options open for next year's projected cap bump.
Is NJ willing to commit $10M (or close to it) long term to him?
He hasn't been worth anywhere near that commitment in NJ to date.
15 mai 2023 à 0 h 17
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NJ has to qualify Meier $10M to retain his rights prior to an offer sheet. He might sign an offer sheet for a little less money and more term, but he'll still be in the 4x1st category regardless. I'd say he's pretty safe from an offer sheet because nobody is doing that.



That's up to Meier. NJ's only control is qualifying him $10M.
He can take that and leave his options open for next year's projected cap bump.
Is NJ willing to commit $10M (or close to it) long term to him?
He hasn't been worth anywhere near that commitment in NJ to date.


NJD can take him to arbitration in the first window, which would block any offer sheet. And it would lock him into a 1-year deal below $10m. We would have to wait until after January to lock him up long-term, but it is an option.

Also keep in mind that he wanted to be here. Over the all-star break, he vacationed with devils players in Mexico. And the conversations with him and his agent before the trade gave enough confidence to our GM that he made the deal without an extension at deadline.

I would be generally surprised if they do not come to an agreement.
15 mai 2023 à 0 h 56
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NJD can take him to arbitration in the first window, which would block any offer sheet. And it would lock him into a 1-year deal below $10m. We would have to wait until after January to lock him up long-term, but it is an option.

Also keep in mind that he wanted to be here. Over the all-star break, he vacationed with devils players in Mexico. And the conversations with him and his agent before the trade gave enough confidence to our GM that he made the deal without an extension at deadline.

I would be generally surprised if they do not come to an agreement.


I think a long term deal is likely, but there's a good chance it is not cap friendly. He'll be looking for more than his performance since the trade justifies.
That may be where there's an impasse. He can take his $10M for this season and go to the highest bidder when teams have a little more cash to throw around.

Club elected arbitration still provides opportunity for an offer sheet (5 days I think, with the way the deadlines work out).
You also don't take that step if you are hoping to keep a player long term.
Like I said though, an offer sheet is very unlikely. Nobody thinks Meier is worth 4x 1sts and that's what a contract would take.
15 mai 2023 à 2 h 57
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I think a long term deal is likely, but there's a good chance it is not cap friendly. He'll be looking for more than his performance since the trade justifies.
That may be where there's an impasse. He can take his $10M for this season and go to the highest bidder when teams have a little more cash to throw around.

Club elected arbitration still provides opportunity for an offer sheet (5 days I think, with the way the deadlines work out).
You also don't take that step if you are hoping to keep a player long term.
Like I said though, an offer sheet is very unlikely. Nobody thinks Meier is worth 4x 1sts and that's what a contract would take.


Expect something similar to Filip Forsberg’s $8.5m x 8 years. I am not too worried. Bratt will be the trickier one (who I believe may end up with less term).
15 mai 2023 à 5 h 59
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YES HUGHES IS not signing meier... our cap down the road we will run out of money ... meier best value is in the past now ...he is expensive now and will go to a contender.....
 
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