Montreal gets enough cap space to extend Caulfield/Dubois long term plus still having the ability to add what they need. Demelo is cost controlled defensive RHD who can play top pairing, and works very well with offensive dmen, which would work with Hutson or Guhle for example.

Unlikely that is the best offer the Jets get for PLD alone.

I doubt any other franchise would offer something as high quality as a top 5 pick. If they want to go for quantity I could see that argument, but going for quality this is probably the best available (and only available if Montreal wants to exit their rebuild now)

It's unlikely Montreal trades that pick, but I don't think that's enough to take on two cap dumps and give up PLD and DeMelo. I think the Jets would get better value, fit wise, trading him elsewhere, so I think they'd opt for that.

PLD alone will fetch more than from another team as a pure rental.

Wtf!!!! What team is going to give more than a 5 overall pick and a top rhd prospect for Dubois. Might get a late first and a B level prospect

What are you talking about? Montreal has like 19.5 mil without moving out any money. Habs have the room to sign both long term for anything less than 9.75 mil each

Also WTF IS THAT PLD TRADE?!! Instant no from Montreal there

Montreal has 19.5 without moving out any money but both Caufield and Dubois would need contracts. Both will make over 8, possibly over 9 on their next contract. If Montreal wants to run the exact same team but just adding Dubois, they'll be a bottom 10 team again, hence them needing to clear cap space to add better players.

Barron is not a top prospect. Wheeler has his ceiling as a 4/5 guy, with a floor as a 6/7 guy. Unless something crazy happens with his development be won't be as good as Demelo. Hoffman and Armia both have negative value as they are cap dumps.

That's fine but they aren't going to do it by over paying for Dubois. You will have yo pick one of Barron + a 2nd or the Cats 1st + Kidney. In no universe would they trade Barron + a 1st, especially not a top 7 1st for PLD. Hoffman is fine as a throw in, his contract is expiring so it's exactly the type of cap offset that would be added at no cost. Armia is so cheap to buy out that we wouldn't pay to move him when we can just buy him out for nothing. The point is you're being ridiculous asking for the Habs 1st + Barron just so that we can save the 800k buyout hit on Armia.

Hoffman would not be a throw in for anyone. As a habs fan, you know how you got a 1st to take Monahans contract? Hoffman is cheaper but still a terrible player, montreal would probably need their 2nd to dump him. Capfriendly has Armias buyout at 1.4 million a year for 4 years, not 800k.

Maybe I'm underrating Barron, I meant him more as a slightly valuable throwin, judging by Scott Wheeler ranking him as a defensemen that will top out as a #4/5 guy if everything goes right.

You are also ignoring how valuable Demelo is in your valuation equation.

Actually you are right I am over estimating Armia's buyout, it is 33k next year not 800k, the year after its 1.03 mil then the last 2 years it's 1.4 mil.

Hoffman is like any other cap offset in a multi-player trade, you don't need to pay to have them in the deal. It's just a throw in player to make cap work, there is a huge difference between adding a player to a deal for cap reasons and having to pay to dump a contract. Hoff man does have value around the league, it might not be a lot but he has some especially if retained.

Yeah you severely undervalue Barron on several fronts most importantly he and Savard are literally our only RHD on the roster capable of playing in the top 4

Mtl will probably try to get Will Smith ( Kent Hughes old player when he coach) or maybe a Dvorksy / Reinbacher .

So if there an Frist round trade is the Floride one. Armia is a cap dump that need to be move out and Hoffman in worst case scenario will be buyout