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Équipe: 2023-24 Sabres de Buffalo
Date de création initiale: 2 mai 2023
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2 mai 2023 à 22 h 55
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David Savard is not on the market. As for the return Montreal was interested in Noah Ostlund at the draft.
2 mai 2023 à 22 h 56
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I think its a fair bet the guy they try to trade for this off season hasnt been mentioned in the rumour mill yet. A whole bunch of guys become available in the lead up to the draft, publicly or privately.

Very confident they wont deal nadeau for Savard.

Also I thought driedger was basically done?
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2 mai 2023 à 22 h 57
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Quoting: VladislavTretiak
David Savard is not on the market. As for the return Montreal was interested in Noah Ostlund at the draft.


mon frere in christ, Savard sucks lol. Theyre not getting a 1st round pick for him.
2 mai 2023 à 23 h 1
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Quoting: Stadel
I think its a fair bet the guy they try to trade for this off season hasnt been mentioned in the rumour mill yet. A whole bunch of guys become available in the lead up to the draft, publicly or privately.

Very confident they wont deal nadeau for Savard.

Also I thought driedger was basically done?


Took his cap for the 2nd Rounder. I believe his cap counts during the offseason since there's no LTIR so this allows SEA to do what they need - (i.e. keep almost all their guys or trade for and sign the cat (but then we poach Soucy - muaha)
2 mai 2023 à 23 h 3
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mon frere in christ, Savard sucks lol. Theyre not getting a 1st round pick for him.


Savard sucks? That's news to me
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2 mai 2023 à 23 h 3
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Took his cap for the 2nd Rounder. I believe his cap counts during the offseason since there's no LTIR so this allows SEA to do what they need - (i.e. keep almost all their guys or trade for and sign the cat (but then we poach Soucy - muaha)


Soucy aint it either my guy. I misread your trade though for some reason i thought he was in the lineup thats my bad.
2 mai 2023 à 23 h 4
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Savard sucks? That's news to me


Really? Been pretty bad for a while now

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2 mai 2023 à 23 h 4
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Really? Been pretty bad for a while now

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Calm down Billy Bean and watch the tape
2 mai 2023 à 23 h 6
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Quoting: VladislavTretiak
Calm down Billy Bean and watch the tape


oh snap good comeback.

You mean the tape where Montreal were terrible defensively and finished last in the division? Yeah saw that movie, was pretty bad. But Savard definitely had nothing to do with that and is worth a 1st rounder.
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2 mai 2023 à 23 h 12
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oh snap good comeback.

You mean the tape where Montreal were terrible defensively and finished last in the division? Yeah saw that movie, was pretty bad. But Savard definitely had nothing to do with that and is worth a 1st rounder.


Then we have no problem my friend -- we keep Savard as a leader to mentor the kids and you find yourself a good solid and stable RHD. Case closed. That was simple.
2 mai 2023 à 23 h 13
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Quoting: VladislavTretiak
Then we have no problem my friend -- we keep Savard as a leader to mentor the kids and you find yourself a good solid and stable RHD. Case closed. That was simple.


agreed. Its better for Buffalo if Montreal keeps Savard actually.
2 mai 2023 à 23 h 17
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Nadeau is one of those prospects I don’t see being moved, especially not for less than a long-term solution for Owen Power’s defense partner. It wouldn’t surprise me if the guy they are targeting is someone nobody thought they would, or thought would be available. Nobody really thought the Sabres would want anything to do with Riley Stillman, but he looked decent down the stretch. Maybe the price they’re willing to pay involves pieces people haven’t thought about either.
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2 mai 2023 à 23 h 24
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Quoting: Stadel
agreed. Its better for Buffalo if Montreal keeps Savard actually.


That was a good banter. Love to play physical hockey in my ACGM comments but it's nothing personal -- just a friendly argument.

But seriously I don't understand why people only focus on advanced stats when we can combine both advanced stats and real-time situational hockey. I remember watching a game where Savard played like a beast and after the game his advanced stats were showing that he was awful. I don't get it. Numbers have to be questioned, put in their context as opposed to taking them at face value.
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2 mai 2023 à 23 h 40
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Quoting: VladislavTretiak
That was a good banter. Love to play physical hockey in my ACGM comments but it's nothing personal -- just a friendly argument.

But seriously I don't understand why people only focus on advanced stats when we can combine both advanced stats and real-time situational hockey. I remember watching a game where Savard played like a beast and after the game his advanced stats were showing that he was awful. I don't get it. Numbers have to be questioned, put in their context as opposed to taking them at face value.


I dont typically like to evaluate a single game based on analytics for that exact reason. Too many variables for a sample size of one game. My problem is Savard's last 3 seasons as a whole. All his underlying numbers are bad, in a sample size of 3000 minutes. It is fair to question and to perhaps put into context his usage, whether he was playing hurt etc. But 3000 even strength minutes where his shot quality for/against looks that bad and at absolute minimum you have to ask the question "how much value is he really bringing to the table?"
2 mai 2023 à 23 h 52
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I dont typically like to evaluate a single game based on analytics for that exact reason. Too many variables for a sample size of one game. My problem is Savard's last 3 seasons as a whole. All his underlying numbers are bad, in a sample size of 3000 minutes. It is fair to question and to perhaps put into context his usage, whether he was playing hurt etc. But 3000 even strength minutes where his shot quality for/against looks that bad and at absolute minimum you have to ask the question "how much value is he really bringing to the table?"


His 2021-22 season was below average to be honest, but in 2022-23 he was a stable presence defensively and he was very efficient to blocks shots. I'd be curious to know if his stats improved this season compared to the previous season.
2 mai 2023 à 23 h 58
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oh snap good comeback.

You mean the tape where Montreal were terrible defensively and finished last in the division? Yeah saw that movie, was pretty bad. But Savard definitely had nothing to do with that and is worth a 1st rounder.


You either get Hockey , or you dont.


No need for any further discussions
It exposed you as not understanding the context of Stats overall outside Goal scored and Goals Saved , that's as far as your depth goes .
Dude's a solid #4/5 D who played the #1 or #2 role for basically 2 years now cause everyone else is Injured
His stats took a hit after his Stanley Cup Championship because of it

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2 mai 2023 à 23 h 59
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His 2021-22 season was below average to be honest, but in 2022-23 he was a stable presence defensively and he was very efficient to blocks shots. I'd be curious to know if his stats improved this season compared to the previous season.


Wouldnt bother he only paid attention for Goals for and Against for a reason
its all he knows how to Quantify
3 mai 2023 à 0 h 23
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Wouldnt bother he only paid attention for Goals for and Against for a reason
its all he knows how to Quantify


That’s literally not at all what I said lmao
3 mai 2023 à 0 h 35
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That’s literally not at all what I said lmao


Its what you contributed
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3 mai 2023 à 2 h 27
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Quoting: VladislavTretiak
David Savard is not on the market. As for the return Montreal was interested in Noah Ostlund at the draft.


I could def see the Sabres shopping Ostlund. They have too many good forward prospects rn and there simply isn't room for them all. Sabres should try to send Ostlund or Rosen with a 1st rounder and maybe something else to a rebuilding or starting to rebuild team and get a very solid top 4 d man coming back the other way.
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3 mai 2023 à 8 h 24
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Soucy aint it either my guy. I misread your trade though for some reason i thought he was in the lineup thats my bad.


what's wrong with Soucy
3 mai 2023 à 13 h 40
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Its what you contributed
Actions speak as loud as words sir


your misinterpretation of my post is your issue. Im citing Savard's analytics. His possession numbers, expected goals against, and other assorted metrics that have nothing to do with goals for or against.
3 mai 2023 à 13 h 40
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what's wrong with Soucy


3rd pair D. Dont we have enough of that?
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