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Créé par: Boggsauce
Équipe: 2023-24 Jets de Winnipeg
Date de création initiale: 29 avr. 2023
Publié: 29 avr. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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they need to recoup value from the expiring contracts on this team. They won't win the cup next year, and none of these guys will want to resign, even if we wanted to keep them.

This has to be a 1-2 year re-tool, as they will need Morrissey and Connor to be the skilled vets to lead them back to contention. A full rebuild doesn't make sense to me

I would also possibly trade Helle to Buffalo for the 13th pick depending on who's available
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1.
WPG
  1. Brännström, Erik [Droits de RFA]
  2. Pinto, Shane [Droits de RFA]
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (OTT)
Détails additionnels:
Brann is a classic "change of scenery" prospect. Sens can afford to lose Pinto with the forward depth they have. 2024 1st is top 5 protected
OTT
  1. Hellebuyck, Connor
Détails additionnels:
Sens get the last piece of the puzzle to get back to the playoffs. Helle resigns, seeing the team has potential to win for the next 5 years
2.
WPG
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (MIN)
MIN
  1. Wheeler, Blake (4 125 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Could be to any team either in the summer or deadline. Maybe even double retained if needed
3.
WPG
  1. Beck, Owen
  2. Dvorak, Christian
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (FLA)
Détails additionnels:
Take what we can get. Change Beck to Roy/Hutson/Mesar/Mysak if you want idc. If not this, then rent him at the deadline to any team
MTL
  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc [Droits de RFA]
4.
WPG
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (COL)
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (COL)
COL
  1. Scheifele, Mark
Détails additionnels:
Fills the 2C spot, where he will fit better not having to be "the guy". Play him with Landy and Lehk to cover his defensive struggles.
5.
WPG
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (FLA)
FLA
  1. Dillon, Brenden
Détails additionnels:
Anywhere
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RFA - 1
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
C
RFA - 1
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UFA - 2
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DG
NMC
UFA - 5
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DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
DG
RFA - 1
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5 875 000 $5 875 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG/DD, AG
RFA - 1
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29 avr. 2023 à 21 h 17
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Most teams so no to this. Add in Minnesota cant afford that cap hit
29 avr. 2023 à 21 h 21
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Probably need to cut deeper, and going to take longer, no quick fix on blueline and or in net and not sure if conner or ehlers resigning so selling relatively high now and adding even some 25 picks wouldn’t hurt and have a 4 year run of prospects to try to be back in 4/5 years.
29 avr. 2023 à 21 h 22
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If the Panthers make the ECF then sure it's a deal otherwise swap Beck with Kidney and the 1st to the Habs 2024 1st (top 10 protected) cause let's be honest that is what you are getting at the deadline for him anyway.
29 avr. 2023 à 21 h 27
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Quoting: Birtle34
Probably need to cut deeper, and going to take longer, no quick fix on blueline and or in net and not sure if conner or ehlers resigning so selling relatively high now and adding even some 25 picks wouldn’t hurt and have a 4 year run of prospects to try to be back in 4/5 years.


Did ya listen to the locker clean out interviews today?
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29 avr. 2023 à 21 h 34
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Did ya listen to the locker clean out interviews today?


Just helly second hand, and some blurbs from wheeler whining
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29 avr. 2023 à 21 h 35
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Did ya listen to the locker clean out interviews today?


Was that helly packing his bags to you too?
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29 avr. 2023 à 21 h 40
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Was that helly packing his bags to you too?


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Just helly second hand, and some blurbs from wheeler whining


Oh I didn't hear, was hoping someone could fill me in with some details.. lol

Really wondering what Chevy had to say if he was interviewed, probably just a bunch of cliche spin like he usually blabs out.
29 avr. 2023 à 21 h 43
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Oh I didn't hear, was hoping someone could fill me in with some details.. lol

Really wondering what Chevy had to say if he was interviewed, probably just a bunch of cliche spin like he usually blabs out.

Helly basically wasnt up for a rebuild and loves playoff hockey, sounds like Chevy is retained and talking tomorrow, I don’t put too much into year end interviews, but this year might be a little different with so much up in the air and so many guys can walk for nothing in 12 months. Wheeler whined about the way bowness let the team have it postgame in the interviews.
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30 avr. 2023 à 7 h 7
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remove all 3 pieces of the OTT trade and add 2 2nds and its a fair deal.
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30 avr. 2023 à 9 h 7
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Avs decline. No cap space and not giving up 2 firsts for a rental.
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30 avr. 2023 à 9 h 45
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Get this through your head: the Avs are not trading any of their premium assets for a rental, especially not an older one one with attitude issues and defensive shortcomings.
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30 avr. 2023 à 16 h 43
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HARD decline from Ottawa

Brann is NOT a classic "change of scenery" prospect. He was excellent this season and just 23 y/o. He's still going to be cheap and still has untapped offensive potential. It's his transition game that is impressive.

Sens can afford to lose Pinto but they would NOT trade him for Chychrun, they are not going to trade him for a goalie.

Even if you remove the 1st it's NO THANKS
30 avr. 2023 à 16 h 46
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HARD decline from Ottawa

Brann is NOT a classic "change of scenery" prospect. He was excellent this season and just 23 y/o. He's still going to be cheap and still has untapped offensive potential. It's his transition game that is impressive.

Sens can afford to lose Pinto but they would NOT trade him for Chychrun, they are not going to trade him for a goalie.

Even if you remove the 1st it's NO THANKS


they cannot afford to lose Pinto because they have no one to replace him with
30 avr. 2023 à 16 h 54
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they cannot afford to lose Pinto because they have no one to replace him with


They COULD afford to trade him because Greig could be the long term 3rd line center behind Stutzle and Norris but seriously, Greig and Pinto are going to be special, don't trade them
30 avr. 2023 à 17 h 2
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They COULD afford to trade him because Greig could be the long term 3rd line center behind Stutzle and Norris but seriously, Greig and Pinto are going to be special, don't trade them


trade Greig not Pinto, Pinto is a 20 goal scorer, Greig is not. you do not open a hole in your lineup hoping a unproven prospect can fill that hole, if Greig craps out then OTT will be scrambling to fix a 3C problem that they did not have before and OTT already has a questionable bottom 6 even with Pinto, are you secretly Chiarelli? because these are pure chiarelli moves
30 avr. 2023 à 17 h 14
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trade Greig not Pinto, Pinto is a 20 goal scorer, Greig is not. you do not open a hole in your lineup hoping a unproven prospect can fill that hole, if Greig craps out then OTT will be scrambling to fix a 3C problem that they did not have before and OTT already has a questionable bottom 6 even with Pinto, are you secretly Chiarelli? because these are pure chiarelli moves


I project players, that's what I have been doing for a long time. Greig is going to be excellent, and Pinto too. I am not advocating any of this, I am saying they COULD afford to move one of the 2, just consider the definition of the word "could"

Didn't you read in the first post you quoted when I said "HARD decline from Ottawa"??? Weird
30 avr. 2023 à 17 h 19
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I project players, that's what I have been doing for a long time. Greig is going to be excellent, and Pinto too. I am not advocating any of this, I am saying they COULD afford to move one of the 2, just consider the definition of the word "could"

Didn't you read in the first post you quoted when I said "HARD decline from Ottawa"??? Weird


id move Greig before Pinto, We know what Pinto is we dont know how Greig will be
30 avr. 2023 à 17 h 23
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id move Greig before Pinto, We know what Pinto is we dont know how Greig will be


I've been rating Greig over Pinto for 2+ years
 
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