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Pipe Dream - Matthews Karlsson Bedard

Créé par: DirtyDangles
Équipe: 2023-24 Flyers de Philadelphie
Date de création initiale: 28 avr. 2023
Publié: 28 avr. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Leafs lose round 1 and make Matthews available
Flyers win draft lottery
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
21 500 000 $
32 750 000 $
2900 000 $
2900 000 $
2900 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
13 000 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Bedard, Connor
3925 000 $
Transactions
1.
PHI
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (CBJ)
CBJ
  1. Hayes, Kevin (2 642 857 $ retained)
2.
PHI
  1. Matthews, Auston
Détails additionnels:
Signs a $14.25 extension
TOR
  1. Brink, Bobby
  2. Couturier, Sean
  3. Konecny, Travis
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (FLA)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (PHI)
Détails additionnels:
2025 2nd becomes a 1st if Couturier plays less than 60% of the games over the 2 years.
3.
PHI
  1. Karlsson, Erik (3 500 000 $ retained)
SJS
  1. Frost, Morgan [Droits de RFA]
  2. Sandström, Felix
  3. Sanheim, Travis
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (PHI)
Détails additionnels:
2023 or 2024 2nd whichever the compensatory pick for Jay O'Brien is.
4.
PHI
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (ARI)
Détails additionnels:
Any Team
ARI
  1. Deangelo, Anthony (2 500 000 $ retained)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
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Logo de EDM
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Logo de OTT
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2024
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Logo de ARI
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Logo de LAK
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Logo de PHI
2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 500 000 $71 811 274 $1 187 500 $70 000 $11 688 726 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 5
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
11 640 250 $11 640 250 $
C
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
5 875 000 $5 875 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Bedard, Connor
925 000 $925 000 $
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
863 333 $863 333 $
AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
825 000 $825 000 $ (Bonis de performance37 500 $$38K)
C, AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
785 000 $785 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
4 725 000 $4 725 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
3 979 000 $3 979 000 $
G
RFA - 1
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
5 100 000 $5 100 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
859 167 $859 167 $ (Bonis de performance32 500 $$32K)
G
RFA - 1
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
775 000 $775 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
900 000 $900 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
762 500 $762 500 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
900 000 $900 000 $
AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
900 000 $900 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1

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28 avr. 2023 à 9 h 45
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Might as well wait until Matthews hits the UFA market in 2024.
28 avr. 2023 à 9 h 46
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Quoting: Hammerwise
Might as well wait until Matthews hits the UFA market in 2024.


Think of it as he is willing to sign an extension with the right team and we don't want to miss out.
Hammerwise a aimé ceci.
28 avr. 2023 à 9 h 53
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what an awful trade for the leafs, not a single thing remotly close enough to be a centerpiece for Nylander let alone Matthews and then you throw in that horrific couturier contract like it has value?
Brutal
28 avr. 2023 à 9 h 56
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
what an awful trade for the leafs, not a single thing remotly close enough to be a centerpiece for Nylander let alone Matthews and then you throw in that horrific couturier contract like it has value?
Brutal


because Matthews is totally gonna sign in Toronto
28 avr. 2023 à 10 h 0
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Matthews isn't signing with Philly, Nor is Karlsson waiving to go to Philly when he wants to play for a contender.
28 avr. 2023 à 10 h 2
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
what an awful trade for the leafs, not a single thing remotly close enough to be a centerpiece for Nylander let alone Matthews and then you throw in that horrific couturier contract like it has value?
Brutal


There is a reason I added the condition to the 2nd...If Couts doesn't play a lot you then get 2 1sts, TK (who is worth more than a 1st by himself) and a prospect who projects to be a top 6F. If Coots does play, then you get a Selke winner who will get 70ish points and the rest of what I listed.

It's actually excessive imo.

But you enjoy your final season of Matthews.
28 avr. 2023 à 10 h 2
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Quoting: DumbHockeyTrades
because Matthews is totally gonna sign in Toronto


Even if he won't, I'd rather take one last run than take that return
28 avr. 2023 à 10 h 2
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Quoting: DumbHockeyTrades
because Matthews is totally gonna sign in Toronto


yeah, it's not like literally every superstar that was with the team who drafted them at the end of their 2nd contract has re-signed with that team except the one guy who signed in....oh he signed in Toronto. Weird
the leafs should totally trade matthews for a horrific return because of that
28 avr. 2023 à 10 h 3
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Even if he won't, I'd rather take one last run than take that return


Leafs would rather cash in then let him walk
28 avr. 2023 à 10 h 3
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Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
Matthews isn't signing with Philly, Nor is Karlsson waiving to go to Philly when he wants to play for a contender.


I think if you add Bedard and Matthews, this team becomes a playoff team immediately and anything can happen in the playoffs, unless you are the Leafs then we all know what happens.
28 avr. 2023 à 10 h 3
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Quoting: DumbHockeyTrades
Leafs would rather cash in then let him walk


This isn't cashing in
28 avr. 2023 à 10 h 5
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
There is a reason I added the condition to the 2nd...If Couts doesn't play a lot you then get 2 1sts, TK (who is worth more than a 1st by himself) and a prospect who projects to be a top 6F. If Coots does play, then you get a Selke winner who will get 70ish points and the rest of what I listed.

It's actually excessive imo.

But you enjoy your final season of Matthews.


Couts turns 31 like 90 days into next season and is signed until he's 37 with significant health worries. He is a massive massive massive risk and hasnt gotten close to his selke calibre in the two years since.
He's not a piece to get matthews
28 avr. 2023 à 10 h 5
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
I think if you add Bedard and Matthews, this team becomes a playoff team immediately and anything can happen in the playoffs, unless you are the Leafs then we all know what happens.


Philly is currently 7th OA, Bedard is a major pipedream. Very rarely do teams who finish 7th OA ever get the number 1 spot. You've a greater chance of staying at 7 then you do getting the top spot.
28 avr. 2023 à 10 h 6
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Leafs would rather cash in then let him walk


if they're looking to cash in, then they'd need a significantly better return than this
28 avr. 2023 à 10 h 11
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
This isn't cashing in


getting more then you would next off season...
28 avr. 2023 à 10 h 12
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Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
Philly is currently 7th OA, Bedard is a major pipedream. Very rarely do teams who finish 7th OA ever get the number 1 spot. You've a greater chance of staying at 7 then you do getting the top spot.


It's almost like I labelled this "Pipe dream" or something...
Hammerwise a aimé ceci.
28 avr. 2023 à 10 h 14
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
Think of it as he is willing to sign an extension with the right team and we don't want to miss out.


Overall I like it, but Matthews (if Leafs dont play for the cup this yr or next, hes not resigning for so little, and the leafs cant really trade him in-season 23-24, but maybe his negotiating rights following 23-24 season), but he either signs for a team that has won the cup or he goes for the money. I could see a PHI team with Bedard and their young core as a good location.

However, Karlsson wouldn;t be where I'd go for a top RD, although admittedly he and provorov could be a good pair.

To me, if I was in this fantasy, maybe I stick with the karlsson deal, although Frost probably weighs that too much in SJS favor. I'd hope Leafs tank out this season and then next, sign Matthews for 17mil. In the above, you have okposo eating 3mil and 9mil in cap space, pretty much about enough to keep coots and koneckny. I'd keep Couts as 3C, and either trade Koneckny for a boatload or Laughton, giving you a third line of Cates-Coots-Koneckny/Brink (not to mention Gautheir might be here by then).
28 avr. 2023 à 10 h 22
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Matthews will be tough:

Imagine Leafs make it to 2nd or 3rd round this year and then crash out. Do you actually think they will be bad enough in 23-24 to trade Matthews in season or at TDL, thereby just writing off the entire year?

Of course not. The Leafs will either have to deal him this off season, get an extension in place before the end of 23-24 regular season, or trade his negotiating rights in the off season of 23-24. They will be a good regular season team and couldn;t just trade their best player (and his cap hit) at deadline, right before they go into the playoffs. Think of CGY with Johnny Gaudreau.

To be fair, his negotiating rights aren;t worth tons (its a short window and youd need a team that has almost 20mil available that has upside and lots of cheap ELC), the team couldn;t implode itself at the TDL, so really its an extension at close to market value (with the cap increase in 24-25, thats probably 15mil) or they try and win it all in 23-24 and compete for him as a UFA as the defending champions.

But lacking so many picks and just a handful of top prospects, the Leafs long term outlook is not as rosy.
28 avr. 2023 à 10 h 40
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Make it a ‘24 2nd, and CBJ accept. We’ll even throw in Bemstrom.
28 avr. 2023 à 14 h 39
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I am a flyers fan and that doesn't get Matthews, doesn't even come close, if he was ever dealt you are talking something like TK, Farabee, Foerester and multiple first round picks, think the Thachuk trade + more assets. Also close to 0% chance he signs as a FA in Philly. He will go to LA or Arizona before any other team.
 
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