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Carlson Karlson combination

Créé par: L_R_10_2003
Équipe: 2023-24 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 26 avr. 2023
Publié: 26 avr. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
42 500 000 $
42 500 000 $
21 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
11 000 000 $
11 000 000 $
14 500 000 $
Transactions
1.
EDM
  1. Karlsson, Erik (5 500 000 $ retained)
SJS
  1. Campbell, Jack
  2. Ceci, Cody
  3. Malone, Brad
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
2.
EDM
  1. Carlson, John (4 000 000 $ retained)
Rachats de contrats
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
2024
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de NSH
2025
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2287 000 000 $84 105 000 $850 000 $1 500 000 $2 895 000 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
12 500 000 $12 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
AG, C
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 5
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
C
RFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance650 000 $$650K)
AG, C
RFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
925 000 $925 000 $
AG
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
9 250 000 $9 250 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
2 600 000 $2 600 000 $
G
UFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Capitals de Washington
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
762 500 $762 500 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DG
RFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 1

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26 avr. 2023 à 8 h 3
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lol that’s not even close
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26 avr. 2023 à 8 h 29
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My goodness, that team would set a record for goals allowed. Carlson is absolutely washed and Karlsson couldn’t care less what happens in his own end.
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26 avr. 2023 à 9 h 36
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Take Erik Karlsson out of the deal and San Jose still says no my god
26 avr. 2023 à 9 h 48
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the Caps don't even take those two for free, let alone for a top 10 point scoring defenseman lmfao
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26 avr. 2023 à 9 h 59
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Quoting: brady_t12
lol that’s not even close


Lol funny thing is Carlson has been the better player out of the two (ek65) over the last 3 seasons and he’s getting way way less value.

Capitals don’t consider this even for a second. Capitals offer Mantha for Hyman at 50%
26 avr. 2023 à 10 h 0
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the Caps don't even take those two for free, let alone for a top 10 point scoring defenseman lmfao

No wonder they suck.

I'm not arguing this trade is fair at all but to say they wouldn't take those guys for free just demonstrates your complete lack of hockey knowledge.
26 avr. 2023 à 10 h 1
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laugh laugh You honestly believe that garbage gets both Carlson and karlsson 50% retained for several years, Get real here neither team is retaining that much. Especially not for hot trash.
26 avr. 2023 à 10 h 8
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Quoting: CD282
No wonder they suck.

I'm not arguing this trade is fair at all but to say they wouldn't take those guys for free just demonstrates your complete lack of hockey knowledge.


Warren Foegele first of all, is hated here in DC. But as far as the on ice play, he is about as average as you can get and would be a fourth liner at best on the Caps since the top 9 is more or less locked in. 2.75 mil for a fourth liner is way too much (looking at you Mantha.) Kulak would be fine for the Caps, but there is no room for him with Carlson, TVR, and Jensen locked up for 3+ years on the right, and Sandin, Fehervary, Alexeyev looking to be the left side for years to come. Maybe he'd take Alexeyevs spot, but that goes against the Caps idea of progressing the youth, which is what MacLellan said they'd be doing this offseason and next year. It's not that the Caps wouldn't take them because they are bad or whatever, it's that they wouldn't fit the team and the team doesn't really have open spots for them.
Apologies for my lack of hockey knowledge though
26 avr. 2023 à 13 h 11
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Warren Foegele first of all, is hated here in DC. But as far as the on ice play, he is about as average as you can get and would be a fourth liner at best on the Caps since the top 9 is more or less locked in. 2.75 mil for a fourth liner is way too much (looking at you Mantha.) Kulak would be fine for the Caps, but there is no room for him with Carlson, TVR, and Jensen locked up for 3+ years on the right, and Sandin, Fehervary, Alexeyev looking to be the left side for years to come. Maybe he'd take Alexeyevs spot, but that goes against the Caps idea of progressing the youth, which is what MacLellan said they'd be doing this offseason and next year. It's not that the Caps wouldn't take them because they are bad or whatever, it's that they wouldn't fit the team and the team doesn't really have open spots for them.
Apologies for my lack of hockey knowledge though

Apology accepted.

Only 3 Washington forwards outscored Foegele at 5v5 this season, pretty funny that you think he'd be a 4th liner on your non-playoff squad. I mean, he's a 3rd liner on a much better team, that should've been a clue for you.

Kulak is, once again, elevating his game in the playoffs. But I guess that's not something Washington would be interested in? After all, their aim is is to get Ovechkin the regular season goals record, not to go deep in the playoffs.
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26 avr. 2023 à 16 h 58
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Apology accepted.

Only 3 Washington forwards outscored Foegele at 5v5 this season, pretty funny that you think he'd be a 4th liner on your non-playoff squad. I mean, he's a 3rd liner on a much better team, that should've been a clue for you.

Kulak is, once again, elevating his game in the playoffs. But I guess that's not something Washington would be interested in? After all, their aim is is to get Ovechkin the regular season goals record, not to go deep in the playoffs.


Caps top 9 forwards as of right now are: Ovechkin, Kuznetsov, Wilson, Mantha, Backstrom, Oshie, Milano, Strome, and McMichael. 3 of those guys missed 20+ games, Milano didn't play until mid-November, and Mantha was either benched or buried on the 4th line most of the season. The only guy Warren Foegele would bump down now that Mantha might get a fair shot is McMichael, and I don't think that's gonna happen now that Laviolette is gone since MacLellan has basically said McMichael has an opening night spot to lose. Honestly the only player I would see Foegele knocking out of the lineup is Aube-Kubel, because Dowd certainly isn't getting scratched, and Protas has all but guaranteed himself a spot on the team next year.
And I'm watching the playoffs too, Kulak has played great. But again, the Caps have 6 NHL defenseman for next year, including three 23 year olds down the left side (where Kulak would play if he came to DC) that the organization thinks very highly of.
Brian MacLellan explicitly said the goal for this offseason is to "find a scoring winger" and to "get younger" and with Laviolette gone, the kids will probably get an actual shot at playing, which fills roster spots. Foegele isn't a scoring winger, and Brett Kulak pushing one of young LD off the lineup card goes directly against the idea of getting the younger guys some playing time.
Again, it's not that they are bad players or whatever, it's that they don't fit the Caps needs/plans going forward. The current rumor is the Caps will be targeting a top 6 winger like DeBrincat or Ehlers if he is made available.

Also, at the end of the day, this all stems from a trade proposal where the Caps would have a good laugh and hang up the phone, so it's a moot point anyways.
 
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