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Créé par: Prison_Goalie_Rick
Équipe: 2023-24 Blue Jackets de Columbus
Date de création initiale: 19 avr. 2023
Publié: 19 avr. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Failure again. Matthew’s won’t sign an extension. TOR gets what they can for him as a 1-year rental. If anyone would pull a stunning trade like this it’s Jarmo.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
2950 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
11 525 000 $
21 250 000 $
2975 000 $
2975 000 $
2975 000 $
2975 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Fantilli, Adam
3950 000 $
Transactions
1.
CGY
  1. Peeke, Andrew
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (CGY)
2.
PHI
  1. Bean, Jake
  2. Roslovic, Jack
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (LAK)
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (LAK)
3.
TOR
  1. Chinakhov, Yegor
  2. Sillinger, Cole
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (CBJ)
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (CBJ)
Détails additionnels:
1st is top-5 protected and conditional on CBJ making playoffs and advancing past the 1st round. If condition not met, pick is swapped for a 24 2nd and 25 2nd.
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 500 000 $77 271 083 $0 $3 700 000 $6 228 917 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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9 750 000 $9 750 000 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 6
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11 640 250 $11 640 250 $
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
C, AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance1 850 000 $$2M)
AG, C
RFA - 1
Fantilli, Adam
950 000 $950 000 $
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD
RFA - 1
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1 525 000 $1 525 000 $
AG, C, AD
RFA - 1
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3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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975 000 $975 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
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1 600 000 $1 600 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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9 583 333 $9 583 333 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Flames de Calgary
1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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5 400 000 $5 400 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
4 725 000 $4 725 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
918 333 $918 333 $ (Bonis de performance1 000 000 $$1M)
DD
RFA - 3
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1 050 000 $1 050 000 $
G
RFA - 2
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2 600 000 $2 600 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
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4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
825 000 $825 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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762 500 $762 500 $
AG, C
RFA - 1
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
900 000 $900 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1

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19 avr. 2023 à 15 h 48
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You are really undervaluing Auston Matthews. Love how you put a condition on the pick as well. There will be no conditions on any picks in a Auston Matthews trade including protection.
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19 avr. 2023 à 16 h 4
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That pick would need to be the 2nd or 3rd overall pick in this draft for the Leafs to even consider it. Columbus only does this if an extension is in place as well.
19 avr. 2023 à 16 h 7
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Lame Austom Matthews trade, At least the Leafs make it to the playoffs. What is Columbus's excuse?
19 avr. 2023 à 16 h 16
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Quoting: Cory
You are really undervaluing Auston Matthews. Love how you put a condition on the pick as well. There will be no conditions on any picks in a Auston Matthews trade including protection.


Auston Matthews is counting down the days to get out of Toronto. He will be on a plane the first day of next off season. You could trade him to Guantanamo Bay and he would waive his no trade rights just to get the **** out of Toronto. If you think you're getting a haul for him you are sadly mistaken, if will be a clone of the Patrick Kane / Aaron Rodgers situation at next year's deadline
19 avr. 2023 à 16 h 25
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Quoting: Cory
You are really undervaluing Auston Matthews. Love how you put a condition on the pick as well. There will be no conditions on any picks in a Auston Matthews trade including protection.


Not trying to undervalue him. I know he’s in the top tier of elite centers skill-wise, but he hasn’t been able to push his team past the first round and he also only has one year. Columbus is taking a pretty huge risk with this trade.
19 avr. 2023 à 16 h 29
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Jackets have no interest in provorov also Matthews gets way more than that in trade
19 avr. 2023 à 16 h 37
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Not trying to undervalue him. I know he’s in the top tier of elite centers skill-wise, but he hasn’t been able to push his team past the first round and he also only has one year. Columbus is taking a pretty huge risk with this trade.


Columbus is taking a risk? You're kidding, right?
19 avr. 2023 à 16 h 44
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Not trying to undervalue him. I know he’s in the top tier of elite centers skill-wise, but he hasn’t been able to push his team past the first round and he also only has one year. Columbus is taking a pretty huge risk with this trade.


How is CBJ taking a huge risk when they gave up nothing in value?
19 avr. 2023 à 16 h 53
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Quoting: Cory
Columbus is taking a risk? You're kidding, right?


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How is CBJ taking a huge risk when they gave up nothing in value?


Your lack of awareness is showing.

Do you have the ability to understand anything outside of Toronto? Sillinger and Chinakov are highly valued young players. That second will be 34th overall, and you could take a chance on getting a higher first somewhere else if you’d like, but you’re not going to be getting multiple first round picks, in addition to young prospects for one year of Matthews.

Least fans have a reputation for being outrageously delusional, so I guess I’m not surprised.
19 avr. 2023 à 17 h 6
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Quoting: pwisch17
Your lack of awareness is showing.

Do you have the ability to understand anything outside of Toronto? Sillinger and Chinakov are highly valued young players. That second will be 34th overall, and you could take a chance on getting a higher first somewhere else if you’d like, but you’re not going to be getting multiple first round picks, in addition to young prospects for one year of Matthews.

Least fans have a reputation for being outrageously delusional, so I guess I’m not surprised.


The delusion here is that the one first round pick you offered is top 5 protected, hilarious. And on top of that, you've added a condition that if CBJ doesn't get out of the first round that turns into two 2nds? So potentially no first picks for your top line C?

Again, hilarious. And we're the delusional ones.
19 avr. 2023 à 17 h 22
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Quoting: Ritzy
The delusion here is that the one first round pick you offered is top 5 protected, hilarious. And on top of that, you've added a condition that if CBJ doesn't get out of the first round that turns into two 2nds? So potentially no first picks for your top line C?

Again, hilarious. And we're the delusional ones.


Quoting: Ritzy
The delusion here is that the one first round pick you offered is top 5 protected, hilarious. And on top of that, you've added a condition that if CBJ doesn't get out of the first round that turns into two 2nds? So potentially no first picks for your top line C?

Again, hilarious. And we're the delusional ones.


Maybe you don’t know this, but the little number in the lower right hand corner of the players info box is the term left on their contract. You’ll notice Matthews has a UFA-1, which means he has one year left on his deal and will be a UFA.

Remember the risk thing? There is a decent chance Columbus can’t re-sign him and he’s gone.

In that case of conditions not being met, you’ve still gotten two high-upside players age 19 and 21 with amole NHL experience already, who are both easily worth a 1st (one even being a center), plus three 2nd rounders, one of which is 34th overall - which combined would be worth a pretty high 1st. Columbus isn’t dealing this year’s top-4 pick without the guarantee of an extension- which this scenario does not propose.

There is a ****load of value there. Go read a book.
20 avr. 2023 à 9 h 46
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Quoting: pwisch17
Your lack of awareness is showing.

Do you have the ability to understand anything outside of Toronto? Sillinger and Chinakov are highly valued young players. That second will be 34th overall, and you could take a chance on getting a higher first somewhere else if you’d like, but you’re not going to be getting multiple first round picks, in addition to young prospects for one year of Matthews.

Least fans have a reputation for being outrageously delusional, so I guess I’m not surprised.


I am the far from being a Leafs fan. Matthews is a generational talent. Toronto will not give him up for nothing. I get that you think this is good value, but all other teams would offer that and more without conditions. you just don't put conditions on a player like that. It is your risk, shouldn't be Toronto's.
20 avr. 2023 à 10 h 6
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Quoting: Cory
I am the far from being a Leafs fan. Matthews is a generational talent. Toronto will not give him up for nothing. I get that you think this is good value, but all other teams would offer that and more without conditions. you just don't put conditions on a player like that. It is your risk, shouldn't be Toronto's.


He’s a very good player. Elite. Not generational, sorry. He also is on a one year deal, so without an extension in place (this scenario does not propose one), you aren’t getting some Gretzky-like haul.

There are very few teams with the cap space and willingness to take on one year of Matthews. And who of them would have better young players to offer than Sillinger and Chinakhov?
20 avr. 2023 à 10 h 13
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He’s a very good player. Elite. Not generational, sorry. He also is on a one year deal, so without an extension in place (this scenario does not propose one), you aren’t getting some Gretzky-like haul.

There are very few teams with the cap space and willingness to take on one year of Matthews. And who of them would have better young players to offer than Sillinger and Chinakhov?


When it comes to Matthews. Teams will find those Assets. He is for sure a generational talent. Toronto instantly became better once he joined the team. Those players are good, but they are not getting you even a sniff of his jock strap. Sorry, I may be wrong, guess time will tell. I truly am trying not to be rude, but why would anyone want to waive for Columbus? Its like Winnipeg of the south and I am from Winnipeg.
20 avr. 2023 à 10 h 36
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When it comes to Matthews. Teams will find those Assets. He is for sure a generational talent. Toronto instantly became better once he joined the team. Those players are good, but they are not getting you even a sniff of his jock strap. Sorry, I may be wrong, guess time will tell. I truly am trying not to be rude, but why would anyone want to waive for Columbus? Its like Winnipeg of the south and I am from Winnipeg.


Sorry, you’re just wrong. Teams can’t just “find” those assets, and if you think he’s a generational talent then you don’t know what that word means.

And maybe someday you’ll have the opportunity to visit Columbus and find out for yourself. Or maybe just Google it. Great city, growing, clean, good ownership and fan base. Ask Johnny Gaudreau, or the dozens of players who have decided to come back and retire there.
20 avr. 2023 à 10 h 49
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Sorry, you’re just wrong. Teams can’t just “find” those assets, and if you think he’s a generational talent then you don’t know what that word means.

And maybe someday you’ll have the opportunity to visit Columbus and find out for yourself. Or maybe just Google it. Great city, growing, clean, good ownership and fan base. Ask Johnny Gaudreau, or the dozens of players who have decided to come back and retire there.


Dozens? So you are saying 24 or more players have signed in free agency (not traded because that is not always their choice) to come back to Columbus to play their final year(s) before retiring?
20 avr. 2023 à 11 h 10
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Dozens? So you are saying 24 or more players have signed in free agency (not traded because that is not always their choice) to come back to Columbus to play their final year(s) before retiring?


I said dozens of players have come back to retire there - meaning after they are done playing. I didn’t say they’ve signed dozens in FA to play their last years there.

The point is that it’s a place that players (people) like to live. It’s nothing like Winnipeg. Not even close.
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