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Going Into 23 24 With a Loaded Roster

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Équipe: 2023-24 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 12 avr. 2023
Publié: 12 avr. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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RFAANSCAP HIT
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TOR
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (WSH)
ARI
  1. Murray, Matt
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (BOS)
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PHI
  1. Robertson, Nicholas
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
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12 avr. 2023 à 16 h 22
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Be hard to pass on that for Laughton. Toews might retire so just slot Laughton in there.
12 avr. 2023 à 17 h 1
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Pass on both trades.

I feel like Murray should cost less this year than he did last. He hasn't been able to stay healthy but he has played fine when he has.

That's an overpay for a solid but not special player. I'm not paying a first for a non needle mover. If philly is involved it's because you're paying up for konecny
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12 avr. 2023 à 19 h 55
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This is awful short sighted. Matthews and Nylander need new deals as will Liljegren and others. Not sure how you'll justify giving Bunting 5 million when he reverts to a 30 point bottom 6 winger without Matthews. I do agree that Samsonov getting more than 3.5 is a stretch. He's been good this season but he's been more bad than good over his career. Hard to say if he's going to be great forever or maybe he's a flash in the pan. Less money over a shorter term may be what happens.

Also moving Murray will not cost that much. There are a lot of teams who need goaltending help and Murray isn't a bad option. In a very weak year for goalies.
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12 avr. 2023 à 21 h 32
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Philly would take this for sure.
13 avr. 2023 à 17 h 5
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Pass on both trades.

I feel like Murray should cost less this year than he did last. He hasn't been able to stay healthy but he has played fine when he has.

That's an overpay for a solid but not special player. I'm not paying a first for a non needle mover. If philly is involved it's because you're paying up for konecny


I don't think the FO will pay more to move Murray than they did Marazek otherwise they just buy him out and take the hit next year.

Agreed. Also, making these trades takes away opportunities to get better at the deadline.
13 avr. 2023 à 17 h 8
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This is awful short sighted. Matthews and Nylander need new deals as will Liljegren and others. Not sure how you'll justify giving Bunting 5 million when he reverts to a 30 point bottom 6 winger without Matthews. I do agree that Samsonov getting more than 3.5 is a stretch. He's been good this season but he's been more bad than good over his career. Hard to say if he's going to be great forever or maybe he's a flash in the pan. Less money over a shorter term may be what happens.

Also moving Murray will not cost that much. There are a lot of teams who need goaltending help and Murray isn't a bad option. In a very weak year for goalies.


I would offer buntz $3 and wouldn't go higher than $3.5 if he doesn't take it let him walk.

We need to see how Sammy does in the playoffs before we can determine a proper extension IMO.

No more than the Marazek trade or he gets bought out and we take the hit.
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13 avr. 2023 à 17 h 35
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I would offer buntz $3 and wouldn't go higher than $3.5 if he doesn't take it let him walk.

We need to see how Sammy does in the playoffs before we can determine a proper extension IMO.

No more than the Marazek trade or he gets bought out and we take the hit.


The buyout has a 2 million dollar cap hit the season after when Matthews and Nylander will be on their next deals. That makes a buyout a non starter. Also moving him won't cost much if anything.

As for Sammy, that's my thought as well. He's had a good regular season but if he is the 2nd best goalie in the playoffs and it costs us a round, then he isn't getting a major long term deal.
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13 avr. 2023 à 20 h 16
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The buyout has a 2 million dollar cap hit the season after when Matthews and Nylander will be on their next deals. That makes a buyout a non starter. Also moving him won't cost much if anything.

As for Sammy, that's my thought as well. He's had a good regular season but if he is the 2nd best goalie in the playoffs and it costs us a round, then he isn't getting a major long term deal.


I agree, I don't think it will cost much and I ultimately think Dubas will trade him (similar to the Marazek deal), just playing the hypothetical game of if he can't trade him without overpaying then Dubas would rather buy him out and essentially have a flat cap the year after as it will likely rise by $2mill.
13 avr. 2023 à 21 h 18
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I agree, I don't think it will cost much and I ultimately think Dubas will trade him (similar to the Marazek deal), just playing the hypothetical game of if he can't trade him without overpaying then Dubas would rather buy him out and essentially have a flat cap the year after as it will likely rise by $2mill.


Or just make do next year with 3 goalies on the roster. Chances are we'd need a 3rd stringer anyways.
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17 avr. 2023 à 18 h 46
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Or just make do next year with 3 goalies on the roster. Chances are we'd need a 3rd stringer anyways.


Sure we could, but it doesn't seem like the best idea to tie up $4mill this year to a goalie who can't stay healthy and we wont be able to reinvest that $ like with Muzzin while trying to sell AM34 on staying long-term.

That said, I certainly get you're point and it's valid, but I don't think it will be an issue to get rid of Murray so there's no point in us arguing over this, because Dubas will move his contract just like he did with Marazek and when he does non leaf fans on here can eat crow.
17 avr. 2023 à 19 h 5
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Sure we could, but it doesn't seem like the best idea to tie up $4mill this year to a goalie who can't stay healthy and we wont be able to reinvest that $ like with Muzzin while trying to sell AM34 on staying long-term.

That said, I certainly get you're point and it's valid, but I don't think it will be an issue to get rid of Murray so there's no point in us arguing over this, because Dubas will move his contract just like he did with Marazek and when he does non leaf fans on here can eat crow.


Like we still don't know how Samsonov is going to play in the playoffs. His career thus far hasn't given me a huge amount of confidence.
17 avr. 2023 à 19 h 19
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Like we still don't know how Samsonov is going to play in the playoffs. His career thus far hasn't given me a huge amount of confidence.


Agreed, we don't know what Sammy will be when it matters most (personally I think he'll be fine) but either way Murray won't be back next year. Also, Sammy could stand on his head and price himself out of Toronto in which case we get asset(s) for him in the off-season and look for a full-time starter in our price range.

We need to see how the playoffs go first but if we don't make it out of the first round again there will be bigger changes coming than Samsanov/Murray.
 
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