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Créé par: BenningTruther
Équipe: 2023-24 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 5 avr. 2023
Publié: 5 avr. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
managements game plan seems to be aquire picks to move them out for younger players.. lets see how it works

Extend petey to 8 x 11
hronek 7 x 6.5
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
12 000 000 $
1900 000 $
1900 000 $
1900 000 $
1775 000 $
1775 000 $
32 500 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
21 500 000 $
44 500 000 $
11 900 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Haman Aktell, Hardy
2925 000 $
Transactions
1.
VAN
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (LAK)
Détails additionnels:
highest pick
2.
VAN
  1. Marino, John
Détails additionnels:
seen a lot of devils ACGMs looking to move marino for a top 6 forward. canucks should be all over it
3.
VAN
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (NYR)
Détails additionnels:
post sb. team will be able to flip myers at the deadline for atleast a 3rd
ARI
  1. Myers, Tyler (3 000 000 $ retained)
4.
VAN
  1. Dellandrea, Ty [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
doubt hes available, but prototype 3C id be after
DAL
  1. Rathbone, Jack
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (VAN)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (NYR)
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 500 000 $78 583 750 $850 000 $850 000 $4 916 250 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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7 350 000 $7 350 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
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4 037 500 $4 037 500 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 1
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8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
C, AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 7
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6 650 000 $6 650 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 5
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
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900 000 $900 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
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825 000 $825 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
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883 750 $883 750 $
C
RFA - 1
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775 000 $775 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
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4 400 000 $4 400 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
UFA - 3
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2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 400 000 $4 400 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
1 900 000 $1 900 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Haman Aktell, Hardy
925 000 $925 000 $
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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762 500 $762 500 $
AD, C
RFA - 1
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
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900 000 $900 000 $
AG, AD
RFA
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Équipe de réserve
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
925 000 $925 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
836 667 $836 667 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
C
RFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
883 750 $883 750 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
775 000 $775 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
883 750 $883 750 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
DD
RFA - 1

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5 avr. 2023 à 15 h 55
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I like, looks good, I think if we get marino we could look at moving bear if he wants to get over 3m
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5 avr. 2023 à 16 h 1
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Quoting: BeautifulIdiot
I like, looks good, I think if we get marino we could look at moving bear if he wants to get over 3m


was thinking the same thing, one year deal makes him a TDL candidate but never bad having 4 NHL RHD
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5 avr. 2023 à 16 h 28
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This doesn’t seem close to fair value for Marino.
I get that Beauvillier has been playing better with the Canucks but he is still closer to a capdump than the top 6 fwd / high-end goalie the Devils would be looking for when dealing Marino (Bennett, Saros, Hellebuyck etc).
Just because Hextall traded Marino for an underwhelming return doesn’t mean that Fitzgerald will for an even worse return.
Honestly I do not see any Marino trade to the Canucks that’d make sense for the Devils.
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5 avr. 2023 à 16 h 49
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Quoting: Tintin
This doesn’t seem close to fair value for Marino.
I get that Beauvillier has been playing better with the Canucks but he is still closer to a capdump than the top 6 fwd / high-end goalie the Devils would be looking for when dealing Marino (Bennett, Saros, Hellebuyck etc).
Just because Hextall traded Marino for an underwhelming return doesn’t mean that Fitzgerald will for an even worse return.
Honestly I do not see any Marino trade to the Canucks that’d make sense for the Devils.


Demko?
5 avr. 2023 à 17 h 22
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Quoting: Lancebmx
Demko?


I could maybe see Marino for Demko straight up if the Devils would consider resigning Severson but I think they have little appetite to add. I’d also like to see if Demko can rebound next year because he hasn’t been better than what the Devils have now in VV and Schmid.
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5 avr. 2023 à 17 h 58
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Quoting: Lancebmx
Demko?


Demko is not going any where he is OUR goalie of the future.
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5 avr. 2023 à 18 h 54
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The Marino and Garland trades are solid but Myers won't get us a 3rd and we won't retain any money on him after July 1. Like the idea of Dellandrea but we'd need to add a lot more to get someone like him, I'd be looking at someone like Joe Veleno from DET has not lived up to expectations and could maybe have a swap of prospects.
5 avr. 2023 à 19 h 21
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Quoting: TheRevanchist17
The Marino and Garland trades are solid but Myers won't get us a 3rd and we won't retain any money on him after July 1. Like the idea of Dellandrea but we'd need to add a lot more to get someone like him, I'd be looking at someone like Joe Veleno from DET has not lived up to expectations and could maybe have a swap of prospects.


i agree we likely dont retain just wanted to put the retention to represent cap coming back which would be likely. Ive used kassian in a few other ACGMs
5 avr. 2023 à 19 h 22
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Quoting: Tintin
This doesn’t seem close to fair value for Marino.
I get that Beauvillier has been playing better with the Canucks but he is still closer to a capdump than the top 6 fwd / high-end goalie the Devils would be looking for when dealing Marino (Bennett, Saros, Hellebuyck etc).
Just because Hextall traded Marino for an underwhelming return doesn’t mean that Fitzgerald will for an even worse return.
Honestly I do not see any Marino trade to the Canucks that’d make sense for the Devils.


to call beauvillier close to a cap dump is pretty ridiculous

definitely a capable middle 6 winger whos still only 25. Makes the same as Marino and Marino isnt much more than a 3/4 guy
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5 avr. 2023 à 19 h 23
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Quoting: Lancebmx
Demko?


Quoting: KDev
I could maybe see Marino for Demko straight up if the Devils would consider resigning Severson but I think they have little appetite to add. I’d also like to see if Demko can rebound next year because he hasn’t been better than what the Devils have now in VV and Schmid.


no reason for canucks to sell demko for pennys
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5 avr. 2023 à 19 h 33
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Quoting: BenningTruther
no reason for canucks to sell demko for pennys


And no reason the devils should trade a young RD on a great deal with term just entering his prime
5 avr. 2023 à 20 h 10
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Quoting: KDev
And no reason the devils should trade a young RD on a great deal with term just entering his prime


i agree, if im the devils id let seversn walk first. like i said in the team, its not my idea, i seen a few devils ACGMs looking to move him a forward. Beauvillier not the only forward on the canucks
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6 avr. 2023 à 2 h 44
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Quoting: KDev
I could maybe see Marino for Demko straight up if the Devils would consider resigning Severson but I think they have little appetite to add. I’d also like to see if Demko can rebound next year because he hasn’t been better than what the Devils have now in VV and Schmid.

Quoting: Lancebmx
Demko?

If the Canucks are trading Demko it probably means that they intend to tank for a year or two, as they have no other viable starters from what I can see.
Wouldn't make sense for them to ask for Marino back in return in such a scenario.

I wouldn't want the Devils to trade for Demko at this point in time anyway.
The cost of acquiring Demko would be way too high to justify the risk of him not getting back to his previous superstar levels, injury asied he's been genuinely terrible in net this year.
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to call beauvillier close to a cap dump is pretty ridiculous

definitely a capable middle 6 winger whos still only 25. Makes the same as Marino and Marino isnt much more than a 3/4 guy

Didn't say that Beauvillier is an actual cap dump (though he was traded as one just a couple of weeks ago), just saying that he's closer to a capdump than the type of forward talent the Devils would be looking for when dealing Marino.

As of now there are 10 forwards on the Devils roster I'd take ahead of Beauvillier: Hughes, Hischier, Meier, Bratt, Mercer, Palat, Tatar, Haula, Boqvist, Bastian.
Wouldn't make much sense for the Devils to deal a 2nd pair RHD for a winger not living up to his cap hit and that doesn't bring anything to the team that isn't already there.

You're right in that Marino 'isn't much more than a 3/4 guy', but those kinds of RHDs are way more valuable than a dime-a-dozen winger with consistency issues like Beauvillier.
I'd think you'd understand that as a Canucks fan, but apparently not.
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Beauvillier not the only forward on the canucks

True. But I don't see any forwards on the Canucks roster that it'd make sense to give Marino up for.
Boeser, Mikheyev and Garland certainly aren't it.
6 avr. 2023 à 10 h 30
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Quoting: Tintin
If the Canucks are trading Demko it probably means that they intend to tank for a year or two, as they have no other viable starters from what I can see.
Wouldn't make sense for them to ask for Marino back in return in such a scenario.

I wouldn't want the Devils to trade for Demko at this point in time anyway.
The cost of acquiring Demko would be way too high to justify the risk of him not getting back to his previous superstar levels, injury asied he's been genuinely terrible in net this year.

Didn't say that Beauvillier is an actual cap dump (though he was traded as one just a couple of weeks ago), just saying that he's closer to a capdump than the type of forward talent the Devils would be looking for when dealing Marino.

As of now there are 10 forwards on the Devils roster I'd take ahead of Beauvillier: Hughes, Hischier, Meier, Bratt, Mercer, Palat, Tatar, Haula, Boqvist, Bastian.
Wouldn't make much sense for the Devils to deal a 2nd pair RHD for a winger not living up to his cap hit and that doesn't bring anything to the team that isn't already there.

You're right in that Marino 'isn't much more than a 3/4 guy', but those kinds of RHDs are way more valuable than a dime-a-dozen winger with consistency issues like Beauvillier.
I'd think you'd understand that as a Canucks fan, but apparently not.

True. But I don't see any forwards on the Canucks roster that it'd make sense to give Marino up for.
Boeser, Mikheyev and Garland certainly aren't it.


huge difference between being a cap dump and being in a trade to make the cap work
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6 avr. 2023 à 12 h 56
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Devils laugh and hang up the phone. Add your 23 or 24 1st to get the convo started
6 avr. 2023 à 16 h 27
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Devils laugh and hang up the phone. Add your 23 or 24 1st to get the convo started


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Beauvillier isn't what we mean by top 6 forward. We already have similar talent players in Tatar/Palat/Yegor. And then Obviously Mercer/Bratt/Meier as our 3 best wingers. So he has no value to us. Dermott also not valuable. Its an awful offer for a quality RHD
 
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