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Créé par: Hurricanes_WPG
Équipe: 2023-24 Hurricanes de la Caroline
Date de création initiale: 20 mars 2023
Publié: 20 mars 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Perhaps the single most stacked D-core in the NHL. Miller is meant to be a long-term Skjei replacement if he walks after 2023-24. There's also some (though might not be as much as I have here if players take more money) deadline cap to go make a move if need be, plus Svech coming back partway through the season.

Drury and Rees are interchangeable at 4C, they're both young players who have performed well in the AHL over the past couple of years. 21 year old Vasily Ponomarev is also a candidate for that 4C role
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
35 790 000 $
21 350 000 $
1800 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
12 500 000 $
23 000 000 $
22 200 000 $
Offres hostiles
Le salaire annuel moyen (AAV) de l'offre hostile est calculé en divisant la valeur totale du contrat par: 1. La durée totale du contrat, ou 2. Cinq ans
JOUEURAAVCOMPENSATION
Miller, K'Andre5 790 000 $
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024
Choix de 3e ronde en 2024
Transactions
BOS
  1. Honka, Anttoni
  2. Suzuki, Ryan
Détails additionnels:
Saw this on a Boston AGM with Bokk instead of Honka
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2023
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2283 500 000 $71 608 584 $450 000 $500 000 $11 891 416 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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8 460 250 $8 460 250 $
C
UFA - 1
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
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5 400 000 $5 400 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
4 820 000 $4 820 000 $
C
UFA - 7
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 4
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
2 200 000 $2 200 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
762 500 $762 500 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
839 167 $839 167 $
C
RFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
1 350 000 $1 350 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
5 280 000 $5 280 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
G
UFA - 4
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
4 025 000 $4 025 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
G
UFA - 5
5 790 000 $5 790 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
800 000 $800 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
7 750 000 $7 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 6
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
925 000 $925 000 $
C
RFA - 1

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20 mars 2023 à 12 h 0
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No thank you. Neither of those pieces are of much interest. Rather just have picks than them.
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20 mars 2023 à 12 h 2
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No thank you. Neither of those pieces are of much interest. Rather just have picks than them.


When I saw this AGM I didn't think it was a great trade from Boston's perspective either but the basic concept of Hall for futures intrigues me.
20 mars 2023 à 12 h 15
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OS Miller at 6.4 or whatever the max for 1st and 3rd is and then trade Skjei for the same first 😂
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20 mars 2023 à 12 h 17
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I don't think there's a world where the Rangers don't match this. It's obviously a minor inconvenience to have him at that cap hit for only 3 years when something along the lines of the Dobson bridge is likely more comparable for him, but at the same time, this still leaves them a couple more RFA years at the end where they can extend him so it's not the end of the world. You offer something like 1 x $8, then all of the sudden you'll get them considering it.
20 mars 2023 à 12 h 20
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When I saw this AGM I didn't think it was a great trade from Boston's perspective either but the basic concept of Hall for futures intrigues me.


Honestly think there is a good chance he is traded for futures. And it will likely be a B+ prospect and a pick. But this does nothing for me.
20 mars 2023 à 12 h 32
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Good luck with the offer sheet nonsense.
20 mars 2023 à 12 h 51
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Nikishkin is Skjei replacement
20 mars 2023 à 13 h 1
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I don't think there's a world where the Rangers don't match this. It's obviously a minor inconvenience to have him at that cap hit for only 3 years when something along the lines of the Dobson bridge is likely more comparable for him, but at the same time, this still leaves them a couple more RFA years at the end where they can extend him so it's not the end of the world. You offer something like 1 x $8, then all of the sudden you'll get them considering it.


The world where the Rangers don't have the cap to match this is one where they overextend to keep their deadline additions or where the raises to Laf and Chytil eat up too much of their cap. This is wishful thinking on my part, for sure, and realistically the Rangers will probably do whatever it takes to keep Miller, but especially if Lafreniere gets 3+MM (which would be second-round compensation should another, perhaps Francophone team offer it to him), this puts the Rangers in a bad spot whether they match or not.

I really think that teams should start using offer-sheets as weapons against teams that are up against the cap.
20 mars 2023 à 13 h 4
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OS Miller at 6.4 or whatever the max for 1st and 3rd is and then trade Skjei for the same first 😂


I'd honestly be really disappointed if Skjei only returned a 1st right now. Dude has been absolutely spectacular since he arrived in Raleigh
20 mars 2023 à 13 h 8
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I'd honestly be really disappointed if Skjei only returned a 1st right now. Dude has been absolutely spectacular since he arrived in Raleigh


Wasn’t sure about how he was doing there, just said a first check that’s what CAR traded away for him
20 mars 2023 à 13 h 11
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Wasn’t sure about how he was doing there, just said a first check that’s what CAR traded away for him


Skjei is one of like 15 defensemen in the NHL in double-digit goals
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Skjei is one of like 15 defensemen in the NHL in double-digit goals


Gawd damn you’re missing the joke
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20 mars 2023 à 13 h 43
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The world where the Rangers don't have the cap to match this is one where they overextend to keep their deadline additions or where the raises to Laf and Chytil eat up too much of their cap. This is wishful thinking on my part, for sure, and realistically the Rangers will probably do whatever it takes to keep Miller, but especially if Lafreniere gets 3+MM (which would be second-round compensation should another, perhaps Francophone team offer it to him), this puts the Rangers in a bad spot whether they match or not.

I really think that teams should start using offer-sheets as weapons against teams that are up against the cap.


Oh don't get me wrong, I completely agree that teams should be using OS's, it's just not something that we're going to see a lot of any time soon. The only way I could see them becoming a semi-regular thing is if the league went to an NBA-style, multi tiered salary cap. When you look at the only two successful OS's since 1997, they were Penner and Kotkaniemi, both of whom were significantly overpaid, and both of who were (are) bottom 6 forwards.

It's funny though, and semi-off topic, but I've gone down the OS rabbit hole. I remember the Weber/ROR/Aho/Shanahan/Stevens ones, but I forgot all about the crazy Sergei Federov one, and that it was Carolina who made the offer. It was obviously pre-cap, but it's wacky $h1t like this that led to the cap-Carolina offered him a front loaded contract, with a $12 million bonus for reaching the conference finals, which Detroit matched, and ended up costing them $28 million(!!!) in '97-'98 (He only played 21 regular season games that year, because he held out until Feb, when he signed the OS). The Wings ended up winning the Cup, so I'm sure it was fine, but what a wild one.

As a Ducks fan, the craziest thing about the Penner offersheet was that it saved Burke from himself, but he still managed to turn around and f**k it up. With the 1st+2nd+3rd in the position they were, the picks were Tyler Myers, Justin Schultz, and Travis Hamonic. Instead, he ended up with Jake Gardiner (traded for the corpse of Franky Beauchemin), Schultz (did not sign, ended up signing in Edmonton), and Marc Andre Bergeron (Who played a whopping 116 minutes with the Ducks).

So yeah, again I totally agree that there should be more OS's, and that it would absolutely bring a heck of a lot more excitement to the offseason, but a Miller offersheet is higher than this.
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20 mars 2023 à 14 h 12
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Quoting: Lenny7
I don't think there's a world where the Rangers don't match this. It's obviously a minor inconvenience to have him at that cap hit for only 3 years when something along the lines of the Dobson bridge is likely more comparable for him, but at the same time, this still leaves them a couple more RFA years at the end where they can extend him so it's not the end of the world. You offer something like 1 x $8, then all of the sudden you'll get them considering it.


I don’t think there’s a world where people actually do an OS at this point. Happened a few times and bit the GM in the a$$ when Aho signed and was matched(KK). That being said, Miller would still need to sign it, we watched marner turn down 1-3 OS for less $ to be in Toronto. Going to need to be higher. 8x7 maybe does it(if someone would do it).
20 mars 2023 à 15 h 27
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It's funny though, and semi-off topic, but I've gone down the OS rabbit hole. I remember the Weber/ROR/Aho/Shanahan/Stevens ones, but I forgot all about the crazy Sergei Federov one, and that it was Carolina who made the offer. It was obviously pre-cap, but it's wacky $h1t like this that led to the cap-Carolina offered him a front loaded contract, with a $12 million bonus for reaching the conference finals, which Detroit matched, and ended up costing them $28 million(!!!) in '97-'98 (He only played 21 regular season games that year, because he held out until Feb, when he signed the OS). The Wings ended up winning the Cup, so I'm sure it was fine, but what a wild one.

As a Ducks fan, the craziest thing about the Penner offersheet was that it saved Burke from himself, but he still managed to turn around and f**k it up. With the 1st+2nd+3rd in the position they were, the picks were Tyler Myers, Justin Schultz, and Travis Hamonic. Instead, he ended up with Jake Gardiner (traded for the corpse of Franky Beauchemin), Schultz (did not sign, ended up signing in Edmonton), and Marc Andre Bergeron (Who played a whopping 116 minutes with the Ducks).


I remember hearing that the Fedorov OS was just because Peter Karmanos hated Mike Ilitch, hence the massive bonuses for reaching the conference finals. Karmanos knew that Carolina wasn't going to make the ECF any time soon, and that Detroit was stacked and would probably make it to the WCF, so he gave Fedorov a massive offer that would have the below .500 Hurricanes not pay him very much but the top-tier Wings pay through the nose.

Also I don't remember Beauchemin being that bad in the early 2010s for the Ducks. I thought he was good for those few years
 
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