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Major sell off to retool to go strong in 2024-25

Créé par: Bruinsforlife
Équipe: 2023-24 Bruins de Boston
Date de création initiale: 15 mars 2023
Publié: 15 mars 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
That happens after boston win the cup, bergy and krecji retire, management openly talks about retool
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
2800 000 $
2800 000 $
2800 000 $
2800 000 $
33 333 333 $
41 150 000 $
31 800 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
65 000 000 $
2775 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Bergy, Davis
14 500 000 $
Transactions
1.
BOS
  1. Peterson, Dylan [Liste de réserve]
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (STL)
STL
  1. Frederic, Trent [Droits de RFA]
2.
BOS
  1. Howden, Brett [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (BUF)
3.
BOS
  1. Borgen, William [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (SEA)
  3. Choix de 6e ronde en 2023 (SEA)
4.
BOS
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (COL)
5.
BOS
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (WPG)
Détails additionnels:
TDL deal
6.
BOS
  1. Foegele, Warren
  2. Holloway, Dylan
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
EDM
  1. DeBrusk, Jake (2 000 000 $ retained)
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
Logo de BOS
Logo de BUF
Logo de SEA
Logo de BOS
Logo de STL
Logo de COL
Logo de BOS
Logo de SEA
Logo de BOS
Logo de LAK
2024
Logo de WPG
Logo de BOS
Logo de BOS
Logo de EDM
Logo de BOS
2025
Logo de BOS
Logo de BOS
Logo de BOS
Logo de BOS
Logo de BOS
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2184 000 000 $84 234 166 $4 500 000 $650 000 $-234 166 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Bruins de Boston
6 125 000 $6 125 000 $
AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 5
Logo de Bruins de Boston
863 333 $863 333 $
AD
RFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance650 000 $$650K)
AG, C
RFA - 1
Logo de Bruins de Boston
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Bruins de Boston
11 250 000 $11 250 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 8
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Bruins de Boston
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
C, AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Bruins de Boston
800 000 $800 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Bruins de Boston
800 000 $800 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
1 150 000 $1 150 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Bruins de Boston
800 000 $800 000 $
C
RFA - 1
Logo de Bruins de Boston
762 500 $762 500 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Bruins de Boston
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
DG
NTC, NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Bruins de Boston
9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 7
Logo de Bruins de Boston
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Bruins de Boston
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Bruins de Boston
4 100 000 $4 100 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Bruins de Boston
3 333 333 $3 333 333 $
G
RFA - 1
775 000 $775 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Bergy, Davis
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $

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15 mars 2023 à 14 h 19
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Why would you sign compher to that deal for a retool?

Or sign him to that deal under any circumstance
15 mars 2023 à 14 h 20
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Way too much from Winnipeg for a player that does nothing for them.
15 mars 2023 à 14 h 31
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You should have offered that to the Blues at the TDL. I mean it's still possible, but they'd have jumped at it then.
15 mars 2023 à 15 h 11
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Most of these deals (trades and UFA signings) are horrible for the Bruins, and you kept Mike Reilly?!
15 mars 2023 à 15 h 12
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Quoting: mokumboi
You should have offered that to the Blues at the TDL. I mean it's still possible, but they'd have jumped at it then.


They'd jump on it at anytime. That's an awful deal for the Bruins.
15 mars 2023 à 15 h 22
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They'd jump on it at anytime. That's an awful deal for the Bruins.


While it may be awful for the Bruins, the Blues may not have room for him this summer. If an LD goes, then sure. As is, they probably say we'll get back to you shortly.
15 mars 2023 à 15 h 26
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Hall and Ebs back together again!

I don't see Edmonton touching that deal. DeBrusk is barely outscoring Foegele despite playing with better linemates.

Foegele v DeBrusk at 5v5

They value Holloway highly, they won't use him as a throw-in to get a modest improvement and 3LW and a few hundred thousand in cap savings.
15 mars 2023 à 15 h 50
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Every single trade here is F- bad for Boston. Just torching assets for nothing. 0/10.
15 mars 2023 à 15 h 52
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Quoting: TraderJoes
Hall and Ebs back together again!

I don't see Edmonton touching that deal. DeBrusk is barely outscoring Foegele despite playing with better linemates.

Foegele v DeBrusk at 5v5

They value Holloway highly, they won't use him as a throw-in to get a modest improvement and 3LW and a few hundred thousand in cap savings.

Jake debrusk is really good at powerplay and penalty kill. Putting him and Foegele in the same paragraph is an injustice.
15 mars 2023 à 16 h 12
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Jake debrusk is really good at powerplay and penalty kill. Putting him and Foegele in the same paragraph is an injustice.

He's wouldn't be getting 1st unit time in Edmonton and the 2nd unit doesn't play much, so that has limited appeal for the Oilers.

He's also not a primary or secondary option for the PK in Boston, there are 5 forwards with greater TOI on the PK.

He'd be 2rd line LW in Edmonton with a limited special teams role, similar usage to Foegele. Therefore it makes perfect sense to compare them.

He might well be a slight upgrade and in this scenario saves the Oilers $750k for one year, but that's not worth sending Dylan Holloway the other way. (Actually I don't think it would save them that much as they'd have to replace Holloway on next year's roster and that would likely cost more than Holloway's ELC).
15 mars 2023 à 16 h 18
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Jake debrusk is really good at powerplay and penalty kill. Putting him and Foegele in the same paragraph is an injustice.

Actually I'm surprised to see that Boston's PP is outside the top-10 in the league. I would have thought it would be better than that.

It has really dropped off in the second half - 27th in the league since January 1st. Yikes.
15 mars 2023 à 16 h 23
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Actually I'm surprised to see that Boston's PP is outside the top-10 in the league. I would have thought it would be better than that.

It has really dropped off in the second half - 27th in the league since January 1st. Yikes.


They’ve been absolutely brutal. The first unit is in a funk. Second unit looks better.
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15 mars 2023 à 16 h 26
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Quoting: TraderJoes
He's wouldn't be getting 1st unit time in Edmonton and the 2nd unit doesn't play much, so that has limited appeal for the Oilers.

He's also not a primary or secondary option for the PK in Boston, there are 5 forwards with greater TOI on the PK.

He'd be 2rd line LW in Edmonton with a limited special teams role, similar usage to Foegele. Therefore it makes perfect sense to compare them.

He might well be a slight upgrade and in this scenario saves the Oilers $750k for one year, but that's not worth sending Dylan Holloway the other way. (Actually I don't think it would save them that much as they'd have to replace Holloway on next year's roster and that would likely cost more than Holloway's ELC).


Where he fits in in edmonton on the PP doesn’t affect his value. There are 30 other teams in the league.

He’s #2 in shorthanded TOI among bruins wingers, two whole seconds behind marchand.

He’s so much better than Foegele. Watching one shift would tell ya that.
15 mars 2023 à 16 h 29
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Have fun with that Compher contract a year into. Love JT but dude is a 35pt Swiss Army knife that is really nice to have to play in the bottom 6 and be a spot top 6 player, but I keep waiting for his production to take a major 10 game+ pause.
15 mars 2023 à 16 h 51
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We’re probably the wrong team for this. Entire D corps is still locked up next year and that would take away money for a Theo extension that will need to be thought about soon
15 mars 2023 à 17 h 5
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Where he fits in in edmonton on the PP doesn’t affect his value. There are 30 other teams in the league.

Um, when we're discussing a trade to Edmonton, it's 100% relevant. They aren't going to pay for something they don't need, it's as simple as that. Therefore they reject the trade offer, whether you think it's FMV or not.

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He’s #2 in shorthanded TOI among bruins wingers, two whole seconds behind marchand.

There's your issue. Forwards don't play "wing" when shorthanded, so only comparing him to other wingers doesn't give you an accurate picture if his usage.

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He’s so much better than Foegele. Watching one shift would tell ya that.

If he was so much better it would show in his results. It doesn't. Particularly concerning is his super low IPP at 5v5. He's clearly a complimentary piece who relies on others around him to create chances and drive play.
15 mars 2023 à 17 h 58
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Um, when we're discussing a trade to Edmonton, it's 100% relevant. They aren't going to pay for something they don't need, it's as simple as that. Therefore they reject the trade offer, whether you think it's FMV or not.


There's your issue. Forwards don't play "wing" when shorthanded, so only comparing him to other wingers doesn't give you an accurate picture if his usage.


If he was so much better it would show in his results. It doesn't. Particularly concerning is his super low IPP at 5v5. He's clearly a complimentary piece who relies on others around him to create chances and drive play.


1. The value is too good for them to turn this down. When a team offers a gift, other GMs take it.
2. He’s 5th among forwards in short handed time for boston. He’s two seconds behind marchand. It’s not like the bruins lock in on four PK forwards.
3. It does show
4. I don’t know what IPP is, nor do I have any desire to. Watch. It’s very clear. You can’t understand hockey looking at spread sheets.
15 mars 2023 à 18 h 59
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Quoting: DefenseFirst
1. The value is too good for them to turn this down. When a team offers a gift, other GMs take it.
2. He’s 5th among forwards in short handed time for boston. He’s two seconds behind marchand. It’s not like the bruins lock in on four PK forwards.
3. It does show
4. I don’t know what IPP is, nor do I have any desire to. Watch. It’s very clear. You can’t understand hockey looking at spread sheets.


1. This is a bad deal for Edmonton. The value is bad. Foegele provides 90% of the scoring DeBrusk does while doing some other things better (physicality, defense). Holloway is a top prospect.
2. Meh. So he can PK. That's what minimum wage 4th liners are for.
3. Prove it. I provided numbers, you got nothing.
4. The percentage of points a player gets compared to how many goals he's on the ice for. Shows how involved he is in creating offense or if he's riding coattails. DeBrusk is riding coattails.
15 mars 2023 à 19 h 0
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Quoting: TraderJoes
1. This is a bad deal for Edmonton. The value is bad. Foegele provides 90% of the scoring DeBrusk does while doing some other things better (physicality, defense).
2. Meh. So he can PK. That's what minimum wage 4th liners are for.
3. Prove it. I provided numbers, you got nothing.
4. The percentage of points a player gets compared to how many goals he's on the ice for. Shows how involved he is in creating offense or if he's riding coattails. DeBrusk is riding coattails.


Sorry buddy, i just think every single thing you just said is intensely stupid. Watch hockey. It’s a fun sport to watch. It’s boring to read spread sheets. He carries that line frequently.
 
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