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Créé par: themarast
Équipe: 2023-24 Predators de Nashville
Date de création initiale: 4 mars 2023
Publié: 4 mars 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3950 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
11 700 000 $
32 000 000 $
2867 000 $
11 050 000 $
3800 000 $
2775 000 $
3775 000 $
2775 000 $
1775 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Heidt, Riley
3950 000 $
Gauthier, Ethan
3950 000 $
Transactions
NSH
  1. Hoffman, Mike (2 250 000 $ retained)
MTL
  1. Barrie, Tyson (2 250 000 $ retained)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2023
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2683 500 000 $68 276 475 $0 $1 702 500 $15 223 525 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 7
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1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C, AD
RFA - 2
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
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4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Predators de Nashville
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
AG, AD
RFA - 1
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1 050 000 $1 050 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 1
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850 833 $850 833 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
C
RFA - 1
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918 333 $918 333 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
AD
RFA - 3
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1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
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950 000 $950 000 $
C
RFA - 3
Logo de Predators de Nashville
2 857 143 $2 857 143 $
C, AD
UFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Predators de Nashville
9 059 000 $9 059 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Predators de Nashville
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Predators de Nashville
6 750 000 $6 750 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 3
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
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867 000 $867 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Predators de Nashville
800 000 $800 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Predators de Nashville
797 500 $797 500 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Predators de Nashville
863 333 $863 333 $
AG
RFA - 3
Logo de Predators de Nashville
800 000 $800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Predators de Nashville
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
G
RFA - 2
Logo de Predators de Nashville
775 000 $775 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1

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4 mars 2023 à 7 h 9
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I would do Hoffman for Barrie… but why the retention of salary in the deal?

Both players have the exact same deal, length and amount, so retaining the same amount on each side doesn’t make sense.
4 mars 2023 à 7 h 34
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Quoting: MONSTER1974
I would do Hoffman for Barrie… but why the retention of salary in the deal?

Both players have the exact same deal, length and amount, so retaining the same amount on each side doesn’t make sense.


I’m more confuse as to why a team going through a rebuild would bring in Hoffman instead of trading Barrie for assets
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4 mars 2023 à 8 h 4
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Quoting: MONSTER1974
I would do Hoffman for Barrie… but why the retention of salary in the deal?

Both players have the exact same deal, length and amount, so retaining the same amount on each side doesn’t make sense.


It leaves the potential for a double retained flip of those players without needing a 3rd party broker at a later date.
I'm actually surprised teams don't do this.
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4 mars 2023 à 9 h 40
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yep, that exactly this idea, both players can bring pick at trade dead line because tham cap can be only 25 percent, its good for nashville and montreal at same time
4 mars 2023 à 9 h 47
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Quoting: ricochetii
It leaves the potential for a double retained flip of those players without needing a 3rd party broker at a later date.
I'm actually surprised teams don't do this.


Probably because it doesn't make a ton of sense to use two retention slots on what would basically be a return on one player. If a team really wants a player with double retention they can make it work for a 4th or 5th to a third team easy enough. This is theoretically not getting anything for using one of your retention slots. I wouldn't expect the return for the player to be so good that it would be worth while. Now you can only retain on one more player so for Montreal only having Edmundson as a UFA it might be alright but if there was a potential deal to move another player like Savard or Armia or Anderson with a bit of retention you couldn't. Even just being that third party broker and getting a mid pick isn't possible.
4 mars 2023 à 10 h 12
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Probably because it doesn't make a ton of sense to use two retention slots on what would basically be a return on one player. If a team really wants a player with double retention they can make it work for a 4th or 5th to a third team easy enough. This is theoretically not getting anything for using one of your retention slots. I wouldn't expect the return for the player to be so good that it would be worth while. Now you can only retain on one more player so for Montreal only having Edmundson as a UFA it might be alright but if there was a potential deal to move another player like Savard or Armia or Anderson with a bit of retention you couldn't. Even just being that third party broker and getting a mid pick isn't possible.


It's situational, as the player with double retention has to be worth more than the player at single retention + a 4th.
If Hoffman is worth a 2nd at $1.125M and it takes you 2 slots to get that, it could be more beneficial than using 1 slot for a 3rd and 1 slot for a 4th.
Quality versus quantity scenario.

I'm not saying it should happen all the time, only that I'm surprised it doesn't happen at all.
4 mars 2023 à 10 h 37
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Lmao no I don’t want anything to do wit Hoffman. I’d rather have a top 4 offensive defenseman over a player that only is good for scoring goals but only has 9 of them this year. Less than barrie I might add.
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