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Blackhawk Fans are Going to be Disappointed but surely a Reality

Créé par: ALjet12
Équipe: 2022-23 Blackhawks de Chicago
Date de création initiale: 25 févr. 2023
Publié: 25 févr. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
CHI
VAN
  1. Kane, Patrick (5 250 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Sends to Vancover than Vancover retains 50% of CHI retention then sends Kane to NYC Rangers
2.
CHI
  1. Jones, Zachary
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (NYR)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (NYR)
NYR
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Frais appliqués
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
Logo de CHI
Logo de TBL
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Logo de OTT
Logo de TBL
Logo de NYR
Logo de CHI
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2024
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Logo de TBL
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Logo de VAN
Logo de NYR
Logo de CHI
Logo de OTT
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Logo de CGY
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $77 823 046 $237 500 $1 015 000 $4 676 954 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
758 333 $758 333 $
AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
2 650 000 $2 650 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD, C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
750 000 $750 000 $
AG, C, AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
1 150 000 $1 150 000 $
AD, C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
950 000 $950 000 $
C
RFA - 2
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
762 500 $762 500 $
AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
750 000 $750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
758 333 $758 333 $
AD
RFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 8
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
3 800 000 $3 800 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
1 350 000 $1 350 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
4 400 000 $4 400 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
883 750 $883 750 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
G
RFA - 2
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
950 000 $950 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
859 167 $859 167 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
DG
RFA - 2
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
975 000 $975 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
900 000 $900 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
800 000 $800 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 2
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
800 000 $800 000 $
AD, C
RFA - 2
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
750 000 $750 000 $
G
UFA - 1

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25 févr. 2023 à 15 h 59
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Well, two things. We have zero need for Zach Jones. And two 2nd round picks is at least better than one, especially if one of them has some sort of attainable conditions to become a 1st.
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25 févr. 2023 à 15 h 59
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2 2nds isn’t bad actually. I’m thinking that if there’s not first outright then it’s going to be a 2nd conditional to a first.
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25 févr. 2023 à 16 h 0
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Well, two things. We have zero need for Zach Jones. And two 2nd round picks is at least better than one, especially if one of them has some sort of attainable conditions to become a 1st.


You don’t think we need more Jones on D in Chicago?
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25 févr. 2023 à 16 h 0
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But yeah, this would be a disappointing return.
25 févr. 2023 à 16 h 0
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At least the NYR fans can stop sending us Kravstov! We're going to be underwhelmed for sure, but (2) 2nds and a decent prospect is FAR better than what NYR fans have been putting on here. Maybe we can flip Jones?
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25 févr. 2023 à 16 h 1
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Quoting: Kyle_Davidson
You don’t think we need more Jones on D in Chicago?


haha. Absolutely not. It's already confusing enough with all the Jones and the Johnson's.
25 févr. 2023 à 16 h 2
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Quoting: Garak
Well, two things. We have zero need for Zach Jones. And two 2nd round picks is at least better than one, especially if one of them has some sort of attainable conditions to become a 1st.


The Blackhawks have a need at every single position.
25 févr. 2023 à 16 h 3
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At least the NYR fans can stop sending us Kravstov! We're going to be underwhelmed for sure, but (2) 2nds and a decent prospect is FAR better than what NYR fans have been putting on here. Maybe we can flip Jones?


Yeah. It's possible he could solidify a role for himself with CHI at least temporarily, or make himself into a decent trade asset if he plays well enough.
25 févr. 2023 à 16 h 5
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Going to have to pay Vancouver handsomely to take on 5 million
25 févr. 2023 à 16 h 5
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Quoting: Garak
Well, two things. We have zero need for Zach Jones. And two 2nd round picks is at least better than one, especially if one of them has some sort of attainable conditions to become a 1st.


I don't think it will be a conditional first but I still think it is a fair return for the lack of leverage that Chicago has. I don't think Drury will just rob CHI for peanuts
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25 févr. 2023 à 16 h 9
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I don't think it will be a conditional first but I still think it is a fair return for the lack of leverage that Chicago has. I don't think Drury will just rob CHI for peanuts


Once again, the Flyers had no leverage with Giroux last year. Tarasenko has an NTC and would ONLY go to the Rangers. The originally predicted return of a 1st and prospect already calculated for that factor. You don't get to use the same coupon twice on a single purchase.

It does seem like that is what is going to happen. But it shouldn't.
25 févr. 2023 à 16 h 9
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Quoting: Garak
Yeah. It's possible he could solidify a role for himself with CHI at least temporarily, or make himself into a decent trade asset if he plays well enough.


So the 💩 sandwich gets upgraded to a full diaper?
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25 févr. 2023 à 16 h 12
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So the 💩 sandwich gets upgraded to a full diaper?


lol. well, two 2nds and a possible 2nd plus for Jones when we flip him if he plays well, isn't as awful as Kravtsov and a single 2nd round pick. Still sucks. But it is better.
25 févr. 2023 à 16 h 15
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Quoting: Garak
Once again, the Flyers had no leverage with Giroux last year. Tarasenko has an NTC and would ONLY go to the Rangers. The originally predicted return of a 1st and prospect already calculated for that factor. You don't get to use the same coupon twice on a single purchase.

It does seem like that is what is going to happen. But it shouldn't.


But with the Tarasenko trade the Rangers were not originally going to go for Kane so they did not mind giving up a first given the fact that they had an extra first in this year's draft. The Rangers will not give up a first because they know they don't need Kane.
25 févr. 2023 à 16 h 16
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Quoting: DefenseFirst
The Blackhawks have a need at every single position.


In the sense that they Need good players… yes. Zach Jones interest to Chicago is based almost entirely on how the stack him up against their current prospects. Since Chicago’s D pool is so stacked, and especially with 4,5,6 types of guys I can’t see us going out of our way to get him unless they really like him.
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25 févr. 2023 à 16 h 17
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But with the Tarasenko trade the Rangers were not originally going to go for Kane so they did not mind giving up a first given the fact that they had an extra first in this year's draft. The Rangers will not give up a first because they know they don't need Kane.


Well, supposedly they originally WERE going for Kane, but Kane took too long to make a decision.
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25 févr. 2023 à 16 h 23
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In the sense that they Need good players… yes. Zach Jones interest to Chicago is based almost entirely on how the stack him up against their current prospects. Since Chicago’s D pool is so stacked, and especially with 4,5,6 types of guys I can’t see us going out of our way to get him unless they really like him.


Yeah. It'd be one thing to say we need help at the NHL level, but Jones is a prospect and we already have plenty of LHD prospects. We're good. Don't need him. Move one with your awful opinions DefenseFirst.
25 févr. 2023 à 16 h 25
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Quoting: Kyle_Davidson
In the sense that they Need good players… yes. Zach Jones interest to Chicago is based almost entirely on how the stack him up against their current prospects. Since Chicago’s D pool is so stacked, and especially with 4,5,6 types of guys I can’t see us going out of our way to get him unless they really like him.


There’s a lot to like with Zach jones. I think he left college a year too early, but still tons of potential there. While his development will answer whether or not he can do it, his skill set suggests he may be able to play the off side.
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25 févr. 2023 à 16 h 25
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Well, supposedly they originally WERE going for Kane, but Kane took too long to make a decision.


That and you forget that Kane injury status deter the Rangers away. It more Kane wanted to come to NYC then NYC wanting him .
25 févr. 2023 à 16 h 27
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That and you forget that Kane injury status deter the Rangers away. It more Kane wanted to come to NYC then NYC wanting him .


I'm sure they knew more about the details of his health than public speculation did. Kane is fine. Tarasenko has been hurt more than Kaner has.
25 févr. 2023 à 16 h 34
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But yeah, this would be a disappointing return.


Very disappointing, but if the guy is gonna waive for one team, what can you really get.

It's Kane's right, I guess. The team agreed to give him the NMC. So I guess this is just how it goes. Agree on Z. Jones, what's even the point.
26 févr. 2023 à 3 h 51
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First realistic trade I've seen. Obviously they could get more if Kane was open to other teams and there was a bidding war but any Hawks fan thinking that Kakko or Lafreniere will be part of the return is delusional
 
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