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Schenn Deals

Créé par: BenningTruther
Équipe: 2022-23 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 22 févr. 2023
Publié: 22 févr. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
sounds like its gonna happen any minute. reports suggesting canucks could get 'significant' return. whatever that means.
Transactions
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VAN
  1. Smith, Craig
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (BOS)
Détails additionnels:
Boston a weird one, doubt they get both schenn and gavrikov. If both of bostons 2023 1st and 3rd are gone to columbus. only thing of interest would be Lysell
BOS
2.
VAN
  1. Foote, Cal
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (TBL)
Détails additionnels:
would honestly be shocked if Cal Foote isnt a Canuck by game 1 next season. 2+2=4
TBL
3.
VAN
  1. Puljujärvi, Jesse
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
Détails additionnels:
same thing as Boston trade. Cap dump makes the price a 1st. If no Puju then maybe Bourgault and a late pick?
EDM
4.
VAN
  1. Iorio, Vincent
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (WSH)
Détails additionnels:
dont care if WSH isnt interested i want vinny lol
WSH
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VAN
  1. Lucic, Milan
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (CGY)
Détails additionnels:
Flames not looking like buyers anymore but if they wanna be bold this would give them big time cap space
CGY
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22 févr. 2023 à 16 h 20
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Quoting: BenningTruther
schenn would cost a 2nd on his own. Boston doesnt have a 2023 2nd so if its to boston its either a first and a cap dump or a late pick and B prospect (Lohrei, Beecher)



Again, no thank you. He’s a 7/8 defenseman. Keep him.
22 févr. 2023 à 16 h 23
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Again, no thank you. He’s a 7/8 defenseman. Keep him.


okay Don
22 févr. 2023 à 16 h 41
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Quoting: BenningTruther
TB reported interest AND Foote reported on the block.

schenn has also resurected his career in VAN and is having the best season of his career

I think Schenn was better last season and what happens when he’s no longer playing with Quinn Hughes is my question…. He’s been terrible paired with anybody other than Hughes this season.
22 févr. 2023 à 16 h 45
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I think Schenn was better last season and what happens when he’s no longer playing with Quinn Hughes is my question…. He’s been terrible paired with anybody other than Hughes this season.


Schenns biggest weakness is footspeed. He just needs honestly an average skater net to him who excels in puck retrievals. His two main parters have been hughes and stillman and yes it has been night and day, but stillman is not an NHL defender. Terrible is a stretch tho beside a few select games
22 févr. 2023 à 16 h 59
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Quoting: BenningTruther
so if minny eats 1.8 for a 4th. a 2nd for 3 mil makes sense. add a 2nd for luke schenn aswell. 2 2nds for a late first?


Is it hard to make these calculations with blue and green glasses on?

No, taking on a $3m contract for one year isn’t getting that kind of a return. Hope for a third
22 févr. 2023 à 17 h 6
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Quoting: DefenseFirst
Is it hard to make these calculations with blue and green glasses on?

No, taking on a $3m contract for one year isn’t getting that kind of a return. Hope for a third


I used ur logic and now ur saying im wrong? this website never ceases to amaze me
22 févr. 2023 à 18 h 48
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I used ur logic and now ur saying im wrong? this website never ceases to amaze me


There was no logic in what you did. You took one example, and then made some weird extrapolation that made no sense. We have plenty of precedent regarding cap dumps. It doesn’t cost that much.
22 févr. 2023 à 21 h 0
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There was no logic in what you did. You took one example, and then made some weird extrapolation that made no sense. We have plenty of precedent regarding cap dumps. It doesn’t cost that much.


what you cant seem to grasp is that it is not a pure cap dump. they are also getting one of, if not the best RHD rental on the market who is playoff proven and can make 425k wit retention. The cap space saved from smith along with schenns low cap hit allow them a lot more flexibility for other signings. like i said if they are getting gavrikov this trade doesnt happen
22 févr. 2023 à 21 h 12
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what you cant seem to grasp is that it is not a pure cap dump. they are also getting one of, if not the best RHD rental on the market who is playoff proven and can make 425k wit retention. The cap space saved from smith along with schenns low cap hit allow them a lot more flexibility for other signings. like i said if they are getting gavrikov this trade doesnt happen


….he’s a 7D.
22 févr. 2023 à 23 h 34
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….he’s a 7D.


if thats your opinion of the player that fine. doesnt change the very real interest in him from actual GMs
22 févr. 2023 à 23 h 56
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if thats your opinion of the player that fine. doesnt change the very real interest in him from actual GMs


Yes, they have interest in him…as a depth D.
23 févr. 2023 à 0 h 21
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I can't see VAN gets anything above a 3rd. Will be interesting...


Canucks asking price is a 2nd round pick or 3rd + prospect minimum. Seeing as how they suddenly scratched him for trade related reasons, it likely means their asking price is met
23 févr. 2023 à 0 h 25
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Yes, they have interest in him…as a depth D.


And look around to what depth D have gotten in deadline deals, and look at the reports saying that somebody will likely overpay for him.
23 févr. 2023 à 8 h 35
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Gives cap relief in order to go out and make another move. what it costs to dump cap in this world


it does not cost the top prospect (likely A level) or a first round pick to dump an expiring contract , you're dreaming , if you were talking riley you might have a leg to stand on , smiths deal is done in 4 months
23 févr. 2023 à 8 h 39
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Keep your hands off my Vinny
23 févr. 2023 à 8 h 47
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Quoting: BenningTruther
what you cant seem to grasp is that it is not a pure cap dump. they are also getting one of, if not the best RHD rental on the market who is playoff proven and can make 425k wit retention. The cap space saved from smith along with schenns low cap hit allow them a lot more flexibility for other signings. like i said if they are getting gavrikov this trade doesnt happen


im still laughing at this one, best rhd on the market , parakyo klingberg karlson all play the right side and chrychrun has in the past
23 févr. 2023 à 13 h 40
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im still laughing at this one, best rhd on the market , parakyo klingberg karlson all play the right side and chrychrun has in the past


best RHD rental* all those guys have term and klingberg blows. Schenn also makes 825k against klingbergs 7m. Schenn can actually play defence. The only way a team would value klingberg more is if they need a pure pp1 qb to stick on their third pair
23 févr. 2023 à 13 h 41
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best RHD rental* all those guys have term and klingberg blows. Schenn also makes 825k against klingbergs 7m. Schenn can actually play defence. The only way a team would value klingberg more is if they need a pure pp1 qb to stick on their third pair


oh i already said rental in the original post, didnt even need to correct myself
23 févr. 2023 à 13 h 46
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Quoting: earl08
I can't see VAN gets anything above a 3rd. Will be interesting...


Quoting: DefenseFirst
Lower your expectations pretty drastically.


Per Kypreos: "Rutherford is asking for a 2nd for Schenn"

Per Friedman: "Calgary Flames: They looked into acquiring Vancouver’s Luke Schenn but the price looks like it was higher than they wanted to pay." [A 3rd based on Flames insiders]

Per Pagnotta: "Get the feeling that Canucks are asking for a 3rd+ [for Schenn]"
23 févr. 2023 à 13 h 48
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Per Kypreos: "Rutherford is asking for a 2nd for Schenn"

Per Friedman: "Calgary Flames: They looked into acquiring Vancouver’s Luke Schenn but the price looks like it was higher than they wanted to pay." [A 3rd based on Flames insiders]

Per Pagnotta: "Get the feeling that Canucks are asking for a 3rd+ [for Schenn]"


Ever since i had an islander fan tell me on this website Raty was untouchable for JT (even as a 1 for 1, this was last deadline) i dont listen to anyone on here lol.
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23 févr. 2023 à 13 h 48
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at best he's a bottom pair d man on any of the playoff teams , on many boston included he's a 7th , that will not bring you a first round pick in any market especially in a strong draft year
23 févr. 2023 à 13 h 58
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at best he's a bottom pair d man on any of the playoff teams , on many boston included he's a 7th , that will not bring you a first round pick in any market especially in a strong draft year


ben chariot got a first round pick (unprotected) with a statline of 7-11-18 in 54 (-18) while making 3.5mil

David savard got a first with a statline of 1-5-6 in 40 (-19) while making 4.25mil

Luke schenn currently has a statline of 3-18-21 in 55 (+9 on an awful canucks team) and makes league minimum in a flat cap league. not to meantion the fact he leads the league in hits and has playoff pedigree.

And if you actually read the post and my other replies instead of running straight to the comments, youd realize its not a1 for 1 trade, canucks are also taking a cap dump back with would cost a 2nd/3rd on its own
23 févr. 2023 à 16 h 55
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Per Kypreos: "Rutherford is asking for a 2nd for Schenn"

Per Friedman: "Calgary Flames: They looked into acquiring Vancouver’s Luke Schenn but the price looks like it was higher than they wanted to pay." [A 3rd based on Flames insiders]

Per Pagnotta: "Get the feeling that Canucks are asking for a 3rd+ [for Schenn]"


Brian Burke famously demanded a 1st for Antropov... and settled on a 2nd. This is Negotiating 101. We'll see if the ask is met or lowered...
23 févr. 2023 à 17 h 28
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Quoting: earl08
Brian Burke famously demanded a 1st for Antropov... and settled on a 2nd. This is Negotiating 101. We'll see if the ask is met or lowered...


if the ask wasnt met canucks said they would resign him. so someone met their demands
23 févr. 2023 à 17 h 46
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Quoting: earl08
Brian Burke famously demanded a 1st for Antropov... and settled on a 2nd. This is Negotiating 101. We'll see if the ask is met or lowered...


Except Schenn is being sat because someone has met those demands, just waiting for other dominos to fall.
 
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