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Équipe: 2022-23 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 21 févr. 2023
Publié: 21 févr. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
EDM
  1. Hoffman, Mike (2 000 000 $ retained)
MTL
  1. Puljujärvi, Jesse
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
2.
EDM
  1. Bjugstad, Nick
  2. Gostisbehere, Shayne (1 000 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
another qb for the power play and depth 3rd liner
ARI
  1. Demers, Jason
  2. Foegele, Warren
  3. Lavoie, Raphael
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
3.
EDM
  1. Lafferty, Sam
Détails additionnels:
same thing as motte trade
CHI
  1. Janmark, Mattias
  2. Choix de 7e ronde en 2025 (EDM)
Détails additionnels:
cond 7th (6th round pick if 7 or more games played in the playoffs)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
2024
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
2025
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2082 500 000 $81 674 000 $896 000 $850 000 $826 000 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
12 500 000 $12 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
AG, C
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
450 000 $450 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
3 100 000 $3 100 000 $
AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
750 000 $750 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
798 000 $798 000 $
C
RFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
1 150 000 $1 150 000 $
AD, C, AG
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
9 250 000 $9 250 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 8
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 4
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
750 000 $750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
4 167 000 $4 167 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
2 200 000 $2 200 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
750 000 $750 000 $
DG
UFA - 1

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21 févr. 2023 à 1 h 25
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Lafferty gets atleast a 3rd
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21 févr. 2023 à 5 h 22
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Remove Gostisbehere and Zona may consider it
21 févr. 2023 à 5 h 58
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You can probably drop that Hoffman pick to a 3rd. Puljujarvi has no value unless he accepts an extension far below his QO. We'll take him and see if that's an option, but he probably goes to UFA.
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21 févr. 2023 à 7 h 50
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That Hoffman trade is terrible for the Oilers.
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21 févr. 2023 à 8 h 18
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That Hoffman trade is terrible for the Oilers.


Awful. Just awful. Even with half salary retain … and no draft pick
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21 févr. 2023 à 8 h 51
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Awful. Just awful. Even with half salary retain … and no draft pick


Hoffman is negative value, even at half retained whereas Pool party is neutral value... The second round pick is going the wrong way here
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24 févr. 2023 à 21 h 31
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Quoting: ricochetii
You can probably drop that Hoffman pick to a 3rd. Puljujarvi has no value unless he accepts an extension far below his QO. We'll take him and see if that's an option, but he probably goes to UFA.


seeing that teams are willing to retain 1-2 mil for a fourth i can see a 3rd round pick instead
24 févr. 2023 à 21 h 34
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Quoting: SociallyHawkward
Lafferty gets atleast a 3rd


i dont know about a 3rd but i could see a bit more value going chicagos way
24 févr. 2023 à 21 h 41
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Quoting: Leafsfan98
That Hoffman trade is terrible for the Oilers.


The second might be a little overkill but the trade would be a good get for both teams as the way i see it. Puljujärvi is a good player but he's almost a non factor on the score sheet this season. yes he has good underlying numbers but the top 6 wingers on the oilers are always in shambles. Even though hoffman is bad in his own end he does still have top 9 scoing upside with good speed. if paired with Mcdavid or RNH i can see him scoing on a more consistent basis. With the half retained as well its a bit of a gamble having him for an extra year but if it pans out and he can score 20g 20a if the following season it could be a nice cheap player till cap space can be cleared for a better winger or holloway develops
24 févr. 2023 à 21 h 45
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Quoting: TheeDjeeEem
Remove Gostisbehere and Zona may consider it


I'd doubt arizona resigns either of them next year, so flipping both for a 1st, a Mid tier prospect and 2 replacement roster player seems fair enough
24 févr. 2023 à 22 h 3
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Quoting: HolozGN
i dont know about a 3rd but i could see a bit more value going chicagos way


Reports are saying the hawks want a 2nd.
24 févr. 2023 à 23 h 2
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Quoting: SociallyHawkward
Reports are saying the hawks want a 2nd.


That seems like a bit of a stretch in value but if he keep his current production through the rest of his contract he could be a worth while grab for any cash strapped contender
24 févr. 2023 à 23 h 3
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Quoting: SociallyHawkward
Lafferty gets atleast a 3rd


Agreed, There are no decent centers available. Could be a 2nd I'd argue
24 févr. 2023 à 23 h 4
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Quoting: ricochetii
You can probably drop that Hoffman pick to a 3rd. Puljujarvi has no value unless he accepts an extension far below his QO. We'll take him and see if that's an option, but he probably goes to UFA.


The extra year retention though should be costly. I'd do at worst a 3rd otherwise it will waste a retention spot for next year.
24 févr. 2023 à 23 h 5
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Quoting: Leafsfan98
Hoffman is negative value, even at half retained whereas Pool party is neutral value... The second round pick is going the wrong way here


Hoffman has 9 pts his last 8 games and they are retaining next year. You think Mtl would waste a retention spot and pay for it when the Wild are getting picks for them?
25 févr. 2023 à 9 h 52
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Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great
Hoffman has 9 pts his last 8 games and they are retaining next year. You think Mtl would waste a retention spot and pay for it when the Wild are getting picks for them?


You are forgetting the crazy wife fiasco in Ottawa right? No NHL team touched him when he had a reasonable deal and was a 30 goal scorer. Now, his production is slightly less. I don't see MTL trading him but no team wants him (maybe MTL but not any other)
25 févr. 2023 à 9 h 58
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Quoting: HolozGN
The second might be a little overkill but the trade would be a good get for both teams as the way i see it. Puljujärvi is a good player but he's almost a non factor on the score sheet this season. yes he has good underlying numbers but the top 6 wingers on the oilers are always in shambles. Even though hoffman is bad in his own end he does still have top 9 scoing upside with good speed. if paired with Mcdavid or RNH i can see him scoing on a more consistent basis. With the half retained as well its a bit of a gamble having him for an extra year but if it pans out and he can score 20g 20a if the following season it could be a nice cheap player till cap space can be cleared for a better winger or holloway develops


I think you're forgetting the off-ice situation with his wife/EK65's wife...
25 févr. 2023 à 10 h 23
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Quoting: SociallyHawkward
Reports are saying the hawks want a 2nd.


By that logic they want a first for Domi then
25 févr. 2023 à 12 h 43
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You are forgetting the crazy wife fiasco in Ottawa right? No NHL team touched him when he had a reasonable deal and was a 30 goal scorer. Now, his production is slightly less. I don't see MTL trading him but no team wants him (maybe MTL but not any other)


the point is that a team retaining and paying for it with a pick when they are rebuilding next season again. that makes no sense. hoffman can rot, they'd never pay to move him. the whole point of moving him would be to clear space to be a broker for a team so the 2nd isnt going to the wrong team.
25 févr. 2023 à 14 h 25
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Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great
the point is that a team retaining and paying for it with a pick when they are rebuilding next season again. that makes no sense. hoffman can rot, they'd never pay to move him. the whole point of moving him would be to clear space to be a broker for a team so the 2nd isnt going to the wrong team.


That's irrelevant, he's still negative value due to his off ice things
26 févr. 2023 à 3 h 13
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Quoting: Leafsfan98
That's irrelevant, he's still negative value due to his off ice things


His wife might be a bit mental, but even after that situation he still got traded for a 2nd 4th and 5th without retained salary.
26 févr. 2023 à 12 h 7
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Quoting: IconicHawk
By that logic they want a first for Domi then


I'm not saying that's what they'll get but yeah I bet that's the asking price for domi retained. Ask for a 1st to see how stupid gm's are and hope someone gives you atleast a 2nd. With laf you ask for a 2nd hoping someone is desperate but settle for a 3rd
 
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