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If Chycurun is going to TO

Créé par: CakeEaterBanks
Équipe: 2022-23 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 5 févr. 2023
Publié: 5 févr. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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  1. Sandin, Rasmus
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
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  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (WPG)
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5 févr. 2023 à 19 h 51
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If that second became a first im sure Arizona would consider.
5 févr. 2023 à 19 h 55
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Lafferty would probs go for more assets
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5 févr. 2023 à 20 h 5
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It's amazing to me how a report by Seravalli can change someone's value on here. I'm certainly not going to slow down the rise of Lafferty! This is way too low for his services.
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5 févr. 2023 à 20 h 11
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Quoting: oilersfan05
If that second became a first im sure Arizona would consider.


Airzona gets back a young top 6 dman who’s proven he can play top 4 mins this season and 1st and 2nd. That’s more than fair. If it was a prospect like Niemela or Robertson then I think 2 1st is fair
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5 févr. 2023 à 20 h 12
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Lafferty would probs go for more assets


Quoting: exo2769
It's amazing to me how a report by Seravalli can change someone's value on here. I'm certainly not going to slow down the rise of Lafferty! This is way too low for his services.


Then what’s his comparable in terms of trade last year? I don’t see him being more than Nick Paul who went for Matthieu Joesph and a 4th.
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5 févr. 2023 à 20 h 21
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Then what’s his comparable in terms of trade last year? I don’t see him being more than Nick Paul who went for Matthieu Joesph and a 4th.


I honestly don't know at this point. This is something I would have accepted at the beginning of the year, but now i hear OTHER fan bases say this is too low. I will admit that Seravalli's report is correct in saying the Hawks do like him alot and he's got another year under contract at a really low cap hit.

To give kudos to this trade...you aren't even sending back cap dumps and expecting the Hawks to be grateful for a cap dump. That's mostly what I see on here.
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5 févr. 2023 à 20 h 32
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Sandin and a late 1st doesn't get Chychrun. The 2nd is not enough.
5 févr. 2023 à 20 h 42
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Quoting: tonyhzs
Sandin and a late 1st doesn't get Chychrun. The 2nd is not enough.


Sandin played top 4 mins this season when Rielly was out and excelled. He’s better than any prospect that Airzona gets back in Chychurun trade.

As a GM you would take Broberg (who’s struggled at the NHL level) and 2 1sts over Sandin, 1st and a 2nd?
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5 févr. 2023 à 20 h 52
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Sandin played top 4 mins this season when Rielly was out and excelled. He’s better than any prospect that Airzona gets back in Chychurun trade.

As a GM you would take Broberg (who’s struggled at the NHL level) and 2 1sts over Sandin, 1st and a 2nd?


Too many teams would beat this. LA for example.
5 févr. 2023 à 21 h 6
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Too many teams would beat this. LA for example.


What would LA give up Clarke who isn’t a top 4 dman, Turcotte who hasn’t been regular in LAK.

Sandin has been a top 4 dman in Toronto this year when Rielly has been out and excelled in the role. Getting a 22 top 4 dman and a 1st and 2nd is better than LAK can offer outside of Byfield.
5 févr. 2023 à 21 h 11
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What would LA give up Clarke who isn’t a top 4 dman, Turcotte who hasn’t been regular in LAK.

Sandin has been a top 4 dman in Toronto this year when Rielly has been out and excelled in the role. Getting a 22 top 4 dman and a 1st and 2nd is better than LAK can offer outside of Byfield.


Durzi.

Their first will be better than Toronto's as well.
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5 févr. 2023 à 21 h 12
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Quoting: CakeEaterBanks
Sandin played top 4 mins this season when Rielly was out and excelled. He’s better than any prospect that Airzona gets back in Chychurun trade.

As a GM you would take Broberg (who’s struggled at the NHL level) and 2 1sts over Sandin, 1st and a 2nd?


Sandin doesn't have a high enough ceiling. Chychrun is a top pairing D. Arizona doesn't get anything back that is able to fully replace Chycrun. Sandin is a downgrade and he doesn't have the potential to be a top pair D. That leaves the 1st rounder, which will be low to mid 20s. This is a deep draft, but picks at that level take time and are a crapshoot. The 2nd is a lottery ticket picking in the 50s.

Arizona should ask for a higher ceiling prospect, probably Niemela, a 1st, and another lower level prospect that is near NHL ready. Toronto doesn't have that third part (the Leafs don't have any good surplus prospects, or they'd already be on the big club with entry level deals) , so it probably has to be a 2024 1st or Knies. I don't see Toronto doing that.
5 févr. 2023 à 21 h 15
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Durzi.

Their first will be better than Toronto's as well.


Lmfaooooooo, Durzi over Sandin? Durzi can play defence as yet and his ceiling is way lower than Sandin. Stop overhyping Durzi
5 févr. 2023 à 21 h 16
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Lmfaooooooo, Durzi over Sandin? Durzi can play defence as yet and his ceiling is way lower than Sandin. Stop overhyping Durzi


No, But a 1st + Turcotte + Durzi is better value than what Toronto is offering.
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5 févr. 2023 à 21 h 23
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Quoting: tonyhzs
Sandin doesn't have a high enough ceiling. Chychrun is a top pairing D. Arizona doesn't get anything back that is able to fully replace Chycrun. Sandin is a downgrade and he doesn't have the potential to be a top pair D. That leaves the 1st rounder, which will be low to mid 20s. This is a deep draft, but picks at that level take time and are a crapshoot. The 2nd is a lottery ticket picking in the 50s.

Arizona should ask for a higher ceiling prospect, probably Niemela, a 1st, and another lower level prospect that is near NHL ready. Toronto doesn't have that third part (the Leafs don't have any good surplus prospects, or they'd already be on the big club with entry level deals) , so it probably has to be a 2024 1st or Knies. I don't see Toronto doing that.


Sandin has top pairing potential. I don’t think you watch him enough. He an extremely smart defenceman and is apart of a top 5 defensive group in the league. His analytics are elite and to take Niemela who hasn’t played a single game over Sandin is quite dumb.

Why would you test your luck on a lottery ball when there’s a top 4 dman LHD that has consistently elevated his play every year and can qb a powerplay.

As someone who watches Niemela his ceiling is about the same as Sandin. Sandin and Niemela have the same weakness which is their average skaters and both possess similar skill sets. Niemela will take longer to arrive as he needs to adjust to the NA ice.
5 févr. 2023 à 21 h 28
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No, But a 1st + Turcotte + Durzi is better value than what Toronto is offering.


if that’s the case why hasn’t LAK offered that?

Ik why it’s an overpayment. Overpaying to prove a point is actually quite funny
5 févr. 2023 à 21 h 54
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if that’s the case why hasn’t LAK offered that?

Ik why it’s an overpayment. Overpaying to prove a point is actually quite funny


I think LA would offer that, but the current dealbreaker is that LA wants the 1st round pick to be a 2024 1st, not a 2023 1st.
5 févr. 2023 à 21 h 58
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I think LA would offer that, but the current dealbreaker is that LA wants the 1st round pick to be a 2024 1st, not a 2023 1st.


No where has reported that…

Furthermore Coyotes wouldve taken that in a heartbeat as they’ve no matter the year has taken 1rounders then. They took a 2025 2nd rounder last year. I don’t see that point having any validity even if it was reported and true.
6 févr. 2023 à 0 h 59
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Vancouver accepts.
 
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