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Reconstructing With My Vision - 2023-24

Créé par: la_scaloneta
Équipe: 2023-24 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 5 févr. 2023
Publié: 5 févr. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
I will not be reposting the trades from the previous season.

Basically it is Kapanen to BOS for Hall

Dumoulin + Carter to EDM for RNH

Blueger + McGinn to WPG for Stanley + Vesalainen
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
22 100 000 $
22 500 000 $
11 400 000 $
1900 000 $
1900 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
14 100 000 $
12 000 000 $
54 100 000 $
1900 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
15 125 000 $
Hall, Taylor
16 000 000 $
Offres hostiles
Le salaire annuel moyen (AAV) de l'offre hostile est calculé en divisant la valeur totale du contrat par: 1. La durée totale du contrat, ou 2. Cinq ans
JOUEURAAVCOMPENSATION
Lafrenière, Alexis2 100 000 $
Choix de 3e ronde en 2024
Gurianov, Denis900 000 $Aucune compensation
McLeod, Michael900 000 $Aucune compensation
Transactions
1.
PIT
  1. Fabbro, Dante [Droits de RFA]
NSH
  1. Petry, Jeff
Détails additionnels:
NSH adds a proven RHD which they are lacking
2.
PIT
  1. Marner, Mitchell
  2. Murray, Matt
Détails additionnels:
*Toronto is going to need cap space to extend Nylander and Matthews, I believe they will look at moving Mitch Marner. Here, they clear 16 million in cap space.
TOR
  1. Hållander, Filip [Droits de RFA]
  2. Pickering, Owen
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (PIT)
Rachats de contrats
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de NJD
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de FLA
Logo de TOR
2024
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
2025
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2287 000 000 $84 270 675 $0 $0 $2 729 325 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
AD, AG
NMC
UFA - 5
Hall, Taylor
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
6 100 000 $6 100 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 5
2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
10 903 000 $10 903 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 2
900 000 $900 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
900 000 $900 000 $
C
RFA - 1
900 000 $900 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
863 333 $863 333 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
4 025 175 $4 025 175 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
6 100 000 $6 100 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
4 687 500 $4 687 500 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
4 100 000 $4 100 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
825 000 $825 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
800 000 $800 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
3 125 000 $3 125 000 $
AD, C
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
4 100 000 $4 100 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2

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5 févr. 2023 à 16 h 56
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Do you know who Mitch Marner is?
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5 févr. 2023 à 17 h 1
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Do you know who Mitch Marner is?


Yes.
5 févr. 2023 à 17 h 8
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The Leafs have nothing but cap space when Matthews and Nylanders new deals start, by design. Also that trade isn’t even a conversation starter value wise for marner.
5 févr. 2023 à 17 h 8
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None of these trades are close, but respect for the creativity
5 févr. 2023 à 17 h 9
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Someone take the edibles away from this dude
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5 févr. 2023 à 17 h 13
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If u want Marner u gotta PAY UP BIG TIME
5 févr. 2023 à 17 h 16
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Quoting: LaffsFan
If u want Marner u gotta PAY UP BIG TIME


I mean, that's both our top propsects and a 1st.
5 févr. 2023 à 17 h 17
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Quoting: Stewie21
The Leafs have nothing but cap space when Matthews and Nylanders new deals start, by design. Also that trade isn’t even a conversation starter value wise for marner.


Yes but they will also need to give Sandin, Liljegren new deals. The extension for Bunting this year too and you won't have as much as you think.
5 févr. 2023 à 17 h 18
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no interest in Petry at all
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5 févr. 2023 à 17 h 23
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Quoting: pensfan21
None of these trades are close, but respect for the creativity


Thanks!
5 févr. 2023 à 17 h 24
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I mean, that's both our top propsects and a 1st.


Just because their your team's top prospects doesn't make them good. The Pens pool is terrible, them crowning it means next to nothing. Would you take Kokkonen and Hirvonen for Guentzel? Didn't think so
5 févr. 2023 à 17 h 27
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Quoting: Nathaniel
Just because their your team's top prospects doesn't make them good. The Pens pool is terrible, them crowning it means next to nothing. Would you take Kokkonen and Hirvonen for Guentzel? Didn't think so


Our prospects are mainly not good because Sullivan won't play them over vets. He is trying to protect Hextall's bad moves but the ones I gave you are very good.
5 févr. 2023 à 17 h 27
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U do realize Leafs will have the cap space to sign both right its not like Matthews and Nylander will be making 10mill more than they currently are facepalm
5 févr. 2023 à 17 h 28
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Quoting: la_scaloneta
Yes but they will also need to give Sandin, Liljegren new deals. The extension for Bunting this year too and you won't have as much as you think.


Have you looked at their page though? They have very few players signed that year. 3 forwards total right now. Every move they make from now till then will be with Matthews, Marner and Nylander deals in mind. The Tavares deal coming off the books the same year as marners will cover all 3. If they end up needing to move Marner to make room for those extensions then they completely screwed up lol.
5 févr. 2023 à 17 h 30
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U do realize Leafs will have the cap space to sign both right its not like Matthews and Nylander will be making 10mill more than they currently are facepalm


Yes, but they will also need to resign Sandin + Liljegren to 4-5 million each, Bunting to 5M, add a 3C, Brodie replacement and give Nylander 11-12 million, Matthews 15-16. It's too risky.
5 févr. 2023 à 17 h 32
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Quoting: Stewie21
Have you looked at their page though? They have very few players signed that year. 3 forwards total right now. Every move they make from now till then will be with Matthews, Marner and Nylander deals in mind. The Tavares deal coming off the books the same year as marners will cover all 3. If they end up needing to move Marner to make room for those extensions then they completely screwed up lol.


Yeah but you will also need to find replacement for Brodie, Murray/Samsonov, add a legit 3C so those pieces will cost maybe 15-20 million in total. Add 34+88 getting around 30 million, JT's 11, Rielly's 7.5, Sandin-Liljegren extensions, that's around 75 million dollars in cap space taken up already.
5 févr. 2023 à 17 h 34
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Yes, but they will also need to resign Sandin + Liljegren to 4-5 million each, Bunting to 5M, add a 3C, Brodie replacement and give Nylander 11-12 million, Matthews 15-16. It's too risky.


They still got cap space to do it. Basically by the time all 4 are up cap will be around 88mill-90mill factor all the expiring guys coming before we got enough space
5 févr. 2023 à 17 h 36
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Our prospects are mainly not good because Sullivan won't play them over vets. He is trying to protect Hextall's bad moves but the ones I gave you are very good.


Unless they are both on a Conor Bedard level of good, the Leafs pass. Mitch Marner is one of the leagues best wingers and is crucial to the Leafs success, more than Nylander. We would not move him to extend Nylander
5 févr. 2023 à 17 h 47
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Unless they are both on a Conor Bedard level of good, the Leafs pass. Mitch Marner is one of the leagues best wingers and is crucial to the Leafs success, more than Nylander. We would not move him to extend Nylander


IDK, most TOR fans on Twitter have emphasized that Nylander is the best player on TOR this season.
5 févr. 2023 à 17 h 51
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Yes, but they will also need to resign Sandin + Liljegren to 4-5 million each, Bunting to 5M, add a 3C, Brodie replacement and give Nylander 11-12 million, Matthews 15-16. It's too risky.


Nylander wont be 11-12 million.... if the choice is between keeping Marner or keeping Nylander, its a pretty easy decision in keeping Marner
5 févr. 2023 à 20 h 0
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If the Leafs lose in round 1, and if Matthews doesn't agree to an extension in the summer/depending what the new GM wants to do, they will both be out there..but it's going to be for a trade that lets them stay competitive and they gain assets. Toronto would need a significant piece, another good roster player back + assets. I have drafts saved of what that looks like but I don't post because people on here are always crappy. I tried to make a PIT trade work, but I just don't think they line up from that perspective or it would be a move the Pens wouldn't want to do or a Pens player with a NMC/NTC wouldn't want to do. I love the creativity behind it, but I just don't know how PIT and TOR could agree to a Marner deal.

In terms of Murray, the Leafs would benefit more from buying him out than paying someone to take him on or getting less value back in a trade.
5 févr. 2023 à 20 h 4
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Nylander wont be 11-12 million.... if the choice is between keeping Marner or keeping Nylander, its a pretty easy decision in keeping Marner


Marner may demand 12-13 million as opposed to Nylander’s 11-12, so it’s a tough call though I’d try to keep both. But I assume GMKD is definitely a bigger fan of Willy.
5 févr. 2023 à 20 h 9
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Nashville has proven D. That’s why Poile got stanley cup winning McDonagh in the off-season.

If we’re moving Fabbro, it’s to get draft picks/younger assets in return. We don’t need to get older.
5 févr. 2023 à 20 h 21
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Marner may demand 12-13 million as opposed to Nylander’s 11-12, so it’s a tough call though I’d try to keep both. But I assume GMKD is definitely a bigger fan of Willy.


If Marner only demanded 500k more than he makes right now id be Very happy. Its really not a tough call at all who youd rather have.

I really dont think Dubas has a preference of one over the other. Fact is Marner is a much better player, not up for debate.

Not to mention, Toronto is in win now mode, those pieces you traded for Marner are not at all what Toronto is looking for. Quite frankly Pittsburgh doesnt have a single player (outside of Crosby) that Toronto would have any sort of interest in moving Marner for
6 févr. 2023 à 11 h 55
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Quoting: la_scaloneta
Yeah but you will also need to find replacement for Brodie, Murray/Samsonov, add a legit 3C so those pieces will cost maybe 15-20 million in total. Add 34+88 getting around 30 million, JT's 11, Rielly's 7.5, Sandin-Liljegren extensions, that's around 75 million dollars in cap space taken up already.


I’m not going to pretend to know what the Leafs will do, especially long term. But I’d assume Murray’s deal will be moved and Sammy will be extended with Woll backing up. Brodie may resign on a cheaper final deal, so most of his 5m goes to Lilly or Sandin extensions. That’s if they don’t move one of them. Again if you lose a star because you spent too much on a 3C then that’s a screw up on management. JTs deal is off the books the same year marners new on kicks in. They’ll figure it out, they won’t be moving stars because of the cap. Now if they lose in the first round and make a change at Gm, that’s a different story.
 
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