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Rutherford Russian Master Plan

Créé par: Andy_Dick
Équipe: 2022-23 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 31 janv. 2023
Publié: 31 janv. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Canucks draft Michkov top4 and LHD Gulyayev mid round with Isles pick. No rush.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Gulyayev, Mikhail
3950 000 $
Michkov, Matvei
3950 000 $
Transactions
1.
VAN
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (VGK)
BUF
  1. Myers, Tyler (1 000 000 $ retained)
2.
VAN
  1. Yurov, Danila [Liste de réserve]
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (MIN)
MIN
  1. Boeser, Brock (1 750 000 $ retained)
  2. Schenn, Luke
3.
VAN
  1. Blackwood, Mackenzie
  2. Mukhamadullin, Shakir
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NJD)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (NJD)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
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UFA - 1
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891 667 $891 667 $ (Bonis de performance300 000 $$300K)
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RFA - 1
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5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
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UFA - 1
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4 950 000 $4 950 000 $
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UFA - 4
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
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836 667 $836 667 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
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UFA - 2
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
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762 500 $762 500 $
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UFA - 2
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762 500 $762 500 $
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RFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
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1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
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UFA - 1
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762 500 $762 500 $
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7 260 000 $7 260 000 $
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NMC
UFA - 5
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
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UFA - 1
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2 800 000 $2 800 000 $
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UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
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UFA - 1
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1 350 000 $1 350 000 $
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Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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850 000 $850 000 $
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4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
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M-NTC
UFA - 4
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
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UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
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UFA - 1
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
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M-NTC
UFA - 2
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
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860 833 $860 833 $ (Bonis de performance150 000 $$150K)
DD
RFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
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UFA - 1
Gulyayev, Mikhail
950 000 $950 000 $
Michkov, Matvei
950 000 $950 000 $

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31 janv. 2023 à 1 h 2
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All of this is very wishful.
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31 janv. 2023 à 1 h 3
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All of this is very wishful.


True. Michkov at number 4 is probably the most wishful. Not sure they can fall that far without a lot of movement. Just getting Matvei makes it all worth it! Be nice to see some actual change after this Horvat mess.
31 janv. 2023 à 1 h 3
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Drop the 2nd and that’s possible
31 janv. 2023 à 1 h 3
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Unless Demko suddenly starts ****ting out ready-to-play Patrick Roys he is not going to earn Vancouver anywhere close to that amount of value.
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31 janv. 2023 à 1 h 4
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Dk tho. VITEK has been solid
31 janv. 2023 à 1 h 4
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Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great
True. Michkov at number 4 is probably the most wishful. Just getting him makes it all worth it! Be nice to see some actual change after this Horvat mess.


Mess? VAN made out like bandits in that rental trade.
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31 janv. 2023 à 1 h 6
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Mess? VAN made out like bandits in that rental trade.


It was a low return. Raty isnt much. Lots of issues. Cant create own offense, skating is iffy. Maybe a 3rd line center. Beauvilier is overpaid and would be hard to move in the offseason.
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31 janv. 2023 à 1 h 9
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Quoting: westleysnipez
Unless Demko suddenly starts ****ting out ready-to-play Patrick Roys he is not going to earn Vancouver anywhere close to that amount of value.


Goalies values are so hard to gauge. I dont think they move Demko unless a team shoots over the moon tho
31 janv. 2023 à 1 h 10
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Signing Barbashev makes a lot of sense now in terms of continuing the Russian contingent.
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31 janv. 2023 à 1 h 11
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Signing Barbashev makes a lot of sense now in terms of continuing the Russian contingent.


Glad somehow guessed the theme
31 janv. 2023 à 1 h 12
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Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great
It was a low return. Raty isnt much. Lots of issues. Cant create own offense, skating is iffy. Maybe a 3rd line center. Beauvilier is overpaid and would be hard to move in the offseason.


Raty has a lot of potential and I think he could be as good as Horvat in 3 years. I think Beau can reach his original potential on a team that's not an offensive black hole like the Islanders. I would bet money Beau hits 50+ points next year (in a full season). The first rounder could be like a 13-20 OVR pick. Vancouver absolutely won that trade.
31 janv. 2023 à 1 h 17
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Raty has a lot of potential and I think he could be as good as Horvat in 3 years. I think Beau can reach his original potential on a team that's not an offensive black hole like the Islanders. I would bet money Beau hits 50+ points next year (in a full season). The first rounder could be like a 13-20 OVR pick. Vancouver absolutely won that trade.


Thats a lot of wishful thinking.
31 janv. 2023 à 1 h 21
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Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great
Thats a lot of wishful thinking.


Its wild that you seemingly think you lost the Horvat trade but think you can ask for a 2nd for Myers or Yurov for a burden of Boeser
31 janv. 2023 à 1 h 23
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Its wild that you seemingly think you lost the Horvat trade but think you can ask for a 2nd for Myers or Yurov for a burden of Boeser


Just say touche. I got you! lmao
31 janv. 2023 à 1 h 59
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All of this is very wishful.


I prefer dreamy trades lol
31 janv. 2023 à 2 h 49
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Quoting: jwg314
Raty has a lot of potential and I think he could be as good as Horvat in 3 years. I think Beau can reach his original potential on a team that's not an offensive black hole like the Islanders. I would bet money Beau hits 50+ points next year (in a full season). The first rounder could be like a 13-20 OVR pick. Vancouver absolutely won that trade.


Maybe you weren’t one of the (many) ‘Nucks fans ensuring very loudly on this site that return for Horvat would be a young C, a young RHD + 1st. You got the 1st (conditional 😕), a young C (but a 20 year old that was a 2nd round pick and is currently in AHL and 1-2 years away from playing as a 2/3 C in NHL 😕) and instead of the RHD, you got a winger making same $ as Horvat (but with another year 😕) . Don’t know how you can say you won the trade?
Most concerning to me - if I were a ‘Nucks fan, which I am not - is that the team is clearly not as good today as it was with Horvat. And when will it get better b/c even with Horvat you were miles from playoffs? Must be more moves coming but I think it’ll be another year or two before ‘Nucks can challenge for playoffs, even in the weakest division in league
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31 janv. 2023 à 3 h 0
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Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great
True. Michkov at number 4 is probably the most wishful. Not sure they can fall that far without a lot of movement. Just getting Matvei makes it all worth it! Be nice to see some actual change after this Horvat mess.


Michkov at 4 is honestly not as big of a stretch as you might think
31 janv. 2023 à 3 h 1
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Quoting: MitchJr
Maybe you weren’t one of the (many) ‘Nucks fans ensuring very loudly on this site that return for Horvat would be a young C, a young RHD + 1st. You got the 1st (conditional 😕), a young C (but a 20 year old that was a 2nd round pick and is currently in AHL and 1-2 years away from playing as a 2/3 C in NHL 😕) and instead of the RHD, you got a winger making same $ as Horvat (but with another year 😕) . Don’t know how you can say you won the trade?
Most concerning to me - if I were a ‘Nucks fan, which I am not - is that the team is clearly not as good today as it was with Horvat. And when will it get better b/c even with Horvat you were miles from playoffs? Must be more moves coming but I think it’ll be another year or two before ‘Nucks can challenge for playoffs, even in the weakest division in league


You know what else? Instead of getting a first round pick between 25-32, the Canucks got a pick that is likely between 13-18. The difference of 15 draft spots is pretty significant
31 janv. 2023 à 7 h 43
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Your delusional. For the billionths time, wild doesn't want boeser or taking on your capdump beyond trolling. Enough Canucks fans
31 janv. 2023 à 10 h 45
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Quoting: Juiceman
You know what else? Instead of getting a first round pick between 25-32, the Canucks got a pick that is likely between 13-18. The difference of 15 draft spots is pretty significant


Fair point but that pick (even if mid 1st round) won’t be contributing at nhl level for at least 2 years? Most likely 3-4. Same goes for Raty - good prospect but don’t see him contributing next year; he’s prob min 1 year away (24-25 season). He’s only 20, 2nd round pick and playing in the ahl currently .
Beauvilier has same cap hit as Horvat and is on the books next year.
If the goal was to restructure and not rebuild, short of some pretty unlikely moves. don’t see how this trade makes ‘Nucks better next year.
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31 janv. 2023 à 14 h 3
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Quoting: MitchJr
Maybe you weren’t one of the (many) ‘Nucks fans ensuring very loudly on this site that return for Horvat would be a young C, a young RHD + 1st. You got the 1st (conditional 😕), a young C (but a 20 year old that was a 2nd round pick and is currently in AHL and 1-2 years away from playing as a 2/3 C in NHL 😕) and instead of the RHD, you got a winger making same $ as Horvat (but with another year 😕) . Don’t know how you can say you won the trade?
Most concerning to me - if I were a ‘Nucks fan, which I am not - is that the team is clearly not as good today as it was with Horvat. And when will it get better b/c even with Horvat you were miles from playoffs? Must be more moves coming but I think it’ll be another year or two before ‘Nucks can challenge for playoffs, even in the weakest division in league


It’s objectively an overpayment for a player that is overperforming this year and doesn’t come with a contract extension. Of course they aren’t a better team after moving Horvat. That wasn’t the point of moving him. I don’t even know what point you’re trying to make there. They do have better pieces for their future though.
31 janv. 2023 à 14 h 24
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It’s objectively an overpayment for a player that is overperforming this year and doesn’t come with a contract extension. Of course they aren’t a better team after moving Horvat. That wasn’t the point of moving him. I don’t even know what point you’re trying to make there. They do have better pieces for their future though.


The point is they are not better now (after moving Horvat, no brainer as you said), but they don’t look like they will better until 2-3 years down the road. Beauvilier has same cap as Horvat, so options to add limited next year. Raty is 2 years away from assuming 2C role, if ever & draft picks take 2-4 year to mature. So if you trade Horvat - with no cap savings next year - for futures, why sign kuzmenko? Should have torn it down & rebuild - next competitive window 3-4 years away
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31 janv. 2023 à 20 h 25
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Quoting: MitchJr
The point is they are not better now (after moving Horvat, no brainer as you said), but they don’t look like they will better until 2-3 years down the road. Beauvilier has same cap as Horvat, so options to add limited next year. Raty is 2 years away from assuming 2C role, if ever & draft picks take 2-4 year to mature. So if you trade Horvat - with no cap savings next year - for futures, why sign kuzmenko? Should have torn it down & rebuild - next competitive window 3-4 years away


My favourite part is the most optimal view of the trade and acting like its a sure thing. Raty isnt close to being Horvat and Beauvilier being a 50 point player isnt a realistic trajectory. But I guess wishful thinking is only valid when it comes from your own perspective.
2 févr. 2023 à 12 h 17
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Your delusional. For the billionths time, wild doesn't want boeser or taking on your capdump beyond trolling. Enough Canucks fans


You're hysterical. Seek help. You didnt tell me anything in the past and Im not a Nucks fan or a unhinged Wild fan like you!
 
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