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Horvat to CAR Trade Idea

Créé par: BrodeurBro30
Équipe: 2022-23 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 17 janv. 2023
Publié: 18 janv. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
VAN
  1. Coghlan, Dylan
  2. Drury, Jack
  3. Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (CAR)
  5. Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (VAN)
  6. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (CAR)
Détails additionnels:
Asking price on Horvat is a 1st, a young center, and a right shot defensemen.

There is no way the Canes part with their No. 1 prospect, Scott Morrow. Coghlan sweetens the deal and is expendable. The Canes are solid on the right side. They just need a reliable 3LD
CAR
  1. Dermott, Travis
  2. Horvat, Bo (1 375 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
It comes with an extension for Horvat. May need to get a third party involved to take 25% of Horvat’s cap
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2023
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2024
Logo de VAN
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Logo de CAR
Logo de VAN
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2482 500 000 $81 905 000 $1 250 000 $850 000 $595 000 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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7 350 000 $7 350 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
825 000 $825 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
762 500 $762 500 $
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
762 500 $762 500 $
AD, C
RFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
750 000 $750 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
750 000 $750 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
925 000 $925 000 $
C
RFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
6 650 000 $6 650 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
4 820 000 $4 820 000 $
C
UFA - 8
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 950 000 $4 950 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
850 000 $850 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
762 500 $762 500 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 260 000 $7 260 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
750 000 $750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
762 500 $762 500 $
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 350 000 $1 350 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
750 000 $750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
UFA - 4
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 3

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18 janv. 2023 à 1 h 49
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No thanks. Don’t want anything to do with Kotkaniemi’s contract
18 janv. 2023 à 1 h 53
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Kotkaniemi is a big cap dump at this point. I don't think the Canucks trade for him unless there OEL is going the other way.
18 janv. 2023 à 2 h 9
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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
Kotkaniemi is a big cap dump at this point. I don't think the Canucks trade for him unless there OEL is going the other way.


The Canes will probably have to add a higher draft pick to dump Kotkaniemi. This just seems like a trade where it can be done as long as the Canucks are tearing it down and rebuilding. I’m sure it’ll look different without KK and the picks can be balanced. My objective was to address the needs of each team.

VAN: Needs a 1st, Young Center, and RHD
CAR: could use a 2C, as long as a KK gets dumped whether in VAN or elsewhere and a 3LD. The Canucks have a logjam at LD

I really believe the Canucks and Hurricanes are natural trading partners, but Colorado, Vegas are also interested in Horvat. Should be interesting to see where he’ll land at the TDL
18 janv. 2023 à 6 h 38
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Despite what you are trying to sell, KK is not a cap dump. It’s not even a fair evaluation to call him that halfway into year 1 when he is only 22. Sure, is he playing up to his contract right now, not really. But his contract is very likely to look like a steal in a couple of years. I mean, hell, everyone said that the same things when Slavin and Pesce signed their contracts, and low and behold, they look like steals. KK is following the same path. We can revisit this topic in a few years and determine then if he is a cap dump or not, but you can’t call him a cap dump this early in his career.

As for the trade, Canes will definitely pass.
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18 janv. 2023 à 8 h 40
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I think if you drop Kotkaniemi, there's no reason the Canes wouldn't do it. Kotkaniemi's a good value long term 3C and a replacement for Jordan Staal. He's also got 8 points in his last 12 so he's starting to produce. He's still 22 and he's improved basically every game he's played. I do not think I've seen Kotkaniemi have a game where he was anything less than a 7/10. He's been consistent with what he is. For how much he makes as a Staal replacement, absolutely no shot Canes move him.

Drury, Coghlan, 1st, 3rd, 5th for Horvat half retained after Carolina is allowed to negotiate with him I think is fair. I still don't think the Canes do it because he isn't a fit for Rod's system, but I also believe Rod's system holds the team back.
18 janv. 2023 à 8 h 50
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Uninformed narrative perpetuates

Quoting: mv21227
No thanks. Don’t want anything to do with Kotkaniemi’s contract


Quoting: BrodeurBro30
The Canes will probably have to add a higher draft pick to dump Kotkaniemi. This just seems like a trade where it can be done as long as the Canucks are tearing it down and rebuilding. I’m sure it’ll look different without KK and the picks can be balanced. My objective was to address the needs of each team.

VAN: Needs a 1st, Young Center, and RHD
CAR: could use a 2C, as long as a KK gets dumped whether in VAN or elsewhere and a 3LD. The Canucks have a logjam at LD

I really believe the Canucks and Hurricanes are natural trading partners, but Colorado, Vegas are also interested in Horvat. Should be interesting to see where he’ll land at the TDL




Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
Kotkaniemi is a big cap dump at this point. I don't think the Canucks trade for him unless there OEL is going the other way.
18 janv. 2023 à 8 h 52
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There is a MASSIVE portion of this missing - what is Horvat’s contract? Canes wouldn’t do anything more than $7-7.5m on a 4-5 year term. That isn’t going to get it done, so none of this matters. Think the Canes and Canucks see Horvat similarly…probably needs to move elsewhere.
 
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