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Équipe: 2023-24 Rangers de New York
Date de création initiale: 12 janv. 2023
Publié: 12 janv. 2023
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Oh hi delneggs.

Went super conservative on RFA deals and signed zero UFAs and still not even room for a backup goalie.

Nice try.
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RFAANSCAP HIT
33 000 000 $
11 700 000 $
11 000 000 $
1900 000 $
21 000 000 $
34 500 000 $
33 500 000 $
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5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
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UFA - 2
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DG
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
DD
RFA - 1
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12 janv. 2023 à 6 h 32
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They might have to hold KAM to a shorter term deal closer to $3.5, understanding if he blows up they pay him closer to $5 per year after, just to afford a backup. Then pray 24-25 has a big pay bump as they have no big UFAs coming off but would have to pay three of their top four D. More likely Goodrow is traded to create room. You can't have that little cap room and flexibility and run a $3.5m+ guy on the 4th line.
12 janv. 2023 à 6 h 46
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They might have to hold KAM to a shorter term deal closer to $3.5, understanding if he blows up they pay him closer to $5 per year after, just to afford a backup. Then pray 24-25 has a big pay bump as they have no big UFAs coming off but would have to pay three of their top four D. More likely Goodrow is traded to create room. You can't have that little cap room and flexibility and run a $3.5m+ guy on the 4th line.


I traded goodrow to buffalo with a 3rd for mittelstadt 50% retained and the poster in my description lost his mind, said there was no cap issue and I couldn't add. Hence this AGM

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3855943
12 janv. 2023 à 8 h 8
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$3.5 to Laf might be needed to fend off and offer sheet, but I have to believe the NYR are going to push for a bit less than that.
12 janv. 2023 à 8 h 9
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$3.5 to Laf might be needed to fend off and offer sheet, but I have to believe the NYR are going to push for a bit less than that.


Kind of hard not to use the dach contract as a comp
12 janv. 2023 à 8 h 24
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I traded goodrow to buffalo with a 3rd for mittelstadt 50% retained and the poster in my description lost his mind, said there was no cap issue and I couldn't add. Hence this AGM

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3855943


Would love to see their level of 1970s CCCP gymnastics teams level of flexibility in running the math on their roster thinking they aren't closing in on cap hell.
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12 janv. 2023 à 8 h 26
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Kind of hard not to use the dach contract as a comp


The team's in different situations though. And you've done a good job illustrating it. The NYR and Laf night be forced into a smaller 1 or 2 year deal. Laf might like that too because he'll be better able to get a larger deal when he's actually playing well.
12 janv. 2023 à 8 h 40
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The team's in different situations though. And you've done a good job illustrating it. The NYR and Laf night be forced into a smaller 1 or 2 year deal. Laf might like that too because he'll be better able to get a larger deal when he's actually playing well.


And that's fine, but it won't be a significantly lower AAV
12 janv. 2023 à 8 h 45
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And that's fine, but it won't be a significantly lower AAV


I guess I just disagree that's how this works. If the team's getting 3 years of control at a set price then RFA. If Laf scores 70+ points next year he's definitely getting more thar $3.5M the following year. His play this current year doesn't warrant $3.5M. It's his draft status and potentual Offer Sheet that might get him $3.5M.
12 janv. 2023 à 8 h 49
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I guess I just disagree that's how this works. If the team's getting 3 years of control at a set price then RFA. If Laf scores 70+ points next year he's definitely getting more thar $3.5M the following year. His play this current year doesn't warrant $3.5M. It's his draft status and potentual Offer Sheet that might get him $3.5M.


I'm not sure what you are arguing. I tried to model it to be similar to the dach deal. It's not a 1 year deal. If he signed a 1 year deal it might be a little cheaper. Still doesn't leave room to improve the team
12 janv. 2023 à 8 h 52
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I'm not sure what you are arguing. I tried to model it to be similar to the dach deal. It's not a 1 year deal. If he signed a 1 year deal it might be a little cheaper. Still doesn't leave room to improve the team


Yeah, I hear you. I was just saying you don't have a backup goalie and need one. You pointed that out. So where do you get that cap space needed to get under the ceiling? Maybe waive JB? Or negotiate with Laf. I guess that's what I was trying to say. I think there's room to negotiate with Laf where he'd agree to a lower AAV as long as the contact was a 1 or 2 year deal.
12 janv. 2023 à 8 h 55
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I would love to try and read the post, but I can't get past the first sentence in the description without laughing. I can't stop thinking about "It's not true, I did nahhhht. Oh hi mark"
12 janv. 2023 à 9 h 5
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Yeah, I hear you. I was just saying you don't have a backup goalie and need one. You pointed that out. So where do you get that cap space needed to get under the ceiling? Maybe waive JB? Or negotiate with Laf. I guess that's what I was trying to say. I think there's room to negotiate with Laf where he'd agree to a lower AAV as long as the contact was a 1 or 2 year deal.


Read the description and my other posts above. I did this agm to prove a point
12 janv. 2023 à 10 h 4
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Kind of hard not to use the dach contract as a comp


If you're going to use Dach as a comp- then give LaF a 4th year on the contract. This would be great for NYR...but reality is a 2 year deal 2,1-2,5M. And yeah- if negotiations drag into the summer, the possibility of an OS does lurk. With Krieder out right now -for who knows how long- LaF's play in the next stretch might just determine where his next contract goes. Other than that- I think the Chytil contract is light by 1-1,5M, but Gautier will not get 1.7M. Ironically, Gaut could be an OS candidate.

To the cap hell/Goodrow point...anyone who wants to deny the obvious- that the NYR Cap situation is tight as a clam- is just in denial. It's actually a good thing that Miller and Chytil are calling for bigger $, and while LaF hasn't lived up to #1OA, certainly no giving up on him. Goodrow and Lindgren are really the only guys on sizeable contracts who are moveable. Until Robertson (or a player yet to be drafted) takes a step- Lindgren is going nowhere. Goodrow is a valuable bottom 6 player who can play up (temporarily) in a pinch. The way some of the young guys are developing there is less of a need for him to temporarily play in the top 6. That leaves him in the bottom 6- particularly the 4th line- which is fine, but is a luxury (given their Cap construction) which becomes less affordable as others on the team need more $ to stay. At some point, NYR will have to move him...I wonder if the recent Vesey extension portends this. If the values could be worked out both sides, seems BUF would be a good partner for a deal involving Goodrow.
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12 janv. 2023 à 11 h 30
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I’m curious to know what contract comparison you’re using for Chytil (I saw you Dach for Laffy)? In addition, Gauthier won’t cost seven figures
12 janv. 2023 à 11 h 38
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https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3857422

just made this, by getting rid of Goodrow you can sign to less conservative deals. Miller and Chytil have to be the priority this offseason. Laf/Kravtsov less so until they prove themselves. I see the latter two getting bridge deals and the others getting 4+ years.
12 janv. 2023 à 11 h 40
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https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3857422

just made this, by getting rid of Goodrow you can sign to less conservative deals. Miller and Chytil have to be the priority this offseason. Laf/Kravtsov less so until they prove themselves. I see the latter two getting bridge deals and the others getting 4+ years.


If you follow the agm I linked and the argument i made there you will see that is the whole reason I made this agm
12 janv. 2023 à 11 h 40
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I’m curious to know what contract comparison you’re using for Chytil (I saw you Dach for Laffy)? In addition, Gauthier won’t cost seven figures


Just assumed modest raises
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12 janv. 2023 à 11 h 47
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If you follow the agm I linked and the argument i made there you will see that is the whole reason I made this agm


ahh gotcha.. yeah Goodrow while important can go at this point. He was good for last year and even this year for his leadership, but he's got to go due to his cap hit at this point. He's still decent but he's definitely the odd man out. Kinda regret the Trocheck signing too but that's another story. Chytil continuing his playoff breakout is something it seems the front office wasn't expecting. Perhaps it's more of the deployment by GG that's the issue-- Trocheck doesn't belong on PP1. Swapping him and Chytil would not only save the faceoff issue for PP2 but also add a needed lefty shot on PP1.
12 janv. 2023 à 12 h 18
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I traded goodrow to buffalo with a 3rd for mittelstadt 50% retained and the poster in my description lost his mind, said there was no cap issue and I couldn't add. Hence this AGM

What I said was it makes no sense to trade an effective forward that represents only 4.4% of the total cap because that doesn't solve their cap issues. If that is "losing his mind" to you, then you must be a drama queen. A nice misrepresentation saying I don't think they have cap issues, I said trading Goodrow doesn't solve it. Kakko got $2.1m x 2 years last year and I would expect Laffy to get a little more, so most likely $2.5m x 2 year bridge deal. Gauthier at $1.7m? LOL. No chance in hell and he will most likely be traded at TDL or the draft. Othmann at $925k will take his place on the roster. This alone picks up $1.8m in cap space along with the almost $500k gives them $2.3 to $2.4m. If Garand is ready to move up, there is a back up. If not, then they have room to sign one. Don't forget Cuylee and Robertson have realistic chances of making the team on entry level deals too. So, they can sign all their RFA's and keep Goodrow. Do they have a lot of wiggle room...no, but not many teams do. That is just reality, like it or not, so no thanks to giving away Goodrow for basically crap. And oh yeah....enjoy missing the playoffs again.
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12 janv. 2023 à 12 h 46
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You could just do an AGM. But you won't because you are wrong and everyone knows it
12 janv. 2023 à 12 h 57
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Quoting: delneggs


You could just do an AGM. But you won't because you are wrong and everyone knows it


LOL. If you say so kid. Now get back to math class and study this time.
12 janv. 2023 à 13 h 2
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You could just do an AGM. But you won't because you are wrong and everyone knows it

LOL. If you say so kid. Now get back to math class and study this time.


Move along now
12 janv. 2023 à 13 h 29
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Move along now


I wish you would.
12 janv. 2023 à 13 h 35
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KAM 4x 4.3m
Chy 3x 3.9m
Laf 2x 2.7m
Krav 1x 900k
Gaut 1x 900k
Jones 2x 900k
Hajek 1x 900k
It all depends on our 23 finish. If somebody explodes, then we'd have to move 1-2 caps, either; Laf, Chytil, or Lindgren, Goody. I think Laf is the one on the move, either now or summer.
Again, NOT for Horvat, Kane, Kuz... but for elcs.
 
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