so two older players, not worth their massive bad contracts to the most financially unstable need to keep the roster and cap open for futures and you dont think you're gonna have to give them a 1st to take the money?
vancouver would need to throw 3 firsts at least to move those contracts to arizona

I wouldn't give either player for free. Despite the flack he gets, Miller is still an awesome player.

I'm one of the few who likes Myers, so if you wanted him for 'Future Considerations' although I'd disagree, I think most Vancouver fans would say that's fine.

Miller was so great last TDL that no deal short of 4, 1t round picks was good enough and now it's desperation to trade him asap. The difference less than a year can make.

Miller has a NMC in the first 4 years of his contract, hes not waiving it July 1 right after his bonus is paid. You are stuck with him.

The city has turned on him. That makes a big difference.

Myers at next yrs deadline should actually fetch a pick in return so it's almost a possible deal.

So much hate on Miller but the guy is still a 1st line player. Nobody was saying any of this last year. Canucks fans are a fickle bunch, they were also saying to trade Pettersson last year when he had a bad start to the season.

No Miller is not getting traded. No he’s not a cap dump. And he’s much better than what this season has shown.

i agree, just stirring the pot. Reading this website you would think there are only like 7 good players in the NHL.

Myers at 1mil is a great deal.

The difference delusion and bipolar syndrom can make

No he isn't

Well real people use real money to pay these guys so saving 5mil bucks is pretty rad, IMO.

when lotto teams use real money you need to pay them a lot to take bad players on worse contracts, so spending a million bucks and having a 5 mill cap hit has extra costs

that goes both ways my guy. Vancouver is GIVING AZ 5mil in salary savings on an expiring deal.

I think its more than the city, wouldnt shock me that multiple of his teammates have turned on him as well

dude, if you give me an apple core for free it isnt a favour because an whole apple costs a dollar. Arizona has no need for Myers, Vancouver is trying to get out of a bad contract so the onus is on them to pay the disposal fee, not the coyotes to do it out of the goodness of their hearts

no they are doing it for 5mil dollars actually.

you do realise that they are not saving anything here right? They are currently not spending a dime on Myers so even if he cost league minimum they would me increasing their spending, the fact that his bonus is paid means nothing because arizona's costs still increase by 1 million dollars. The only team that benefits with money here is vancouver, they save 5 million in cap hit and 1 million in cash, if they wish to save that money they have to pay in assets.

Lets assume they trade JC, they will need to spend roughly 20mil to hit cap floor. They have ONE RHD signed. So the benefit of trading for Myers is that he cost 1mil and gets you 6mil closer to the floor. Thats the savings and for teams on budgets that big. Not to mention trying to get UFAs to sign to play at a college arena. Just go build their roster next year on here and see.

And arizona can fill up the 22ish mill to hit the cap floor very very easily because they only have 11 players signed, oh and other teams will pay them to take on bad contracts, so if vancouver wants in on that action, they will have to pay

yep i guess we will see what happens

sure we will, and like always, it wont be arizona taking bad contracts for free

sorry i get the last word

Per Dom Lucyzn at the Athletic's player market value, he has JT Miller's play worth a market value of $8.4MM. The narrative he's not worth his contract is based on the assumption he's going to fall off a cliff. Lets stop dragging his name through the mud until he actually plays bad.

Tyler Myers, in the same model is a 0 value player. Agree Myers isn't worth his $6MM cap hit obviously, but at only $1MM actual salary, I could see Arizona being interested in a big physical veteran Dman. Maybe Canucks need to add a pick (I'd rather them just keep if that's the case).

vacuum value does not translate to actual value, especially when the team that needs the value is a lotto team on the tightest of budgets. 29 year old miller owed 50 million over the next 7 seasons would have no value to the coyotes, especially when you factor in Miller getting worse and worse and worse every year simply because that's how aging works, so that would take a massive massive massive sweetener to make them bite.
And as ive said with Myers, if the Coyotes want a 1 million dollar vet dman, they'll be plenty of those available in the summer, there are literally a dozen and again, as i said, if Vancouver wants to be in on that, they'll have to pony up