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Sharks sell off everything year 1

Créé par: glarson17
Équipe: 2022-23 Sharks de San Jose
Date de création initiale: 29 déc. 2022
Publié: 31 déc. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
If they sharks sold off everything to try and rebuild from the bottom up, this is what I would imagine would happen.

Not all players moved
Transactions
1.
SJS
  1. Coronato, Matthew [Liste de réserve]
  2. Kylington, Oliver
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (CGY)
CGY
  1. Meier, Timo
Détails additionnels:
By far most tradable and valuable asset currently
2.
SJS
  1. Eller, Lars
  2. Hagelin, Carl
  3. Johansen, Lucas
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (WSH)
  5. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (WSH)
Détails additionnels:
Sharks take some cap back, as well as retain for years, and get a 1st and a depth defenseman to play either bottom pair or strengthen their weak defensive depth in their org.
WSH
  1. Couture, Logan (2 000 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Washington gets solid center depth with some uncertainty at their center position moving forward. Couture at $6 mil is a good return for the cap hit.
3.
SJS
  1. Blais, Samuel
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (NYR)
4.
SJS
  1. Bailey, Josh
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (NYI)
Détails additionnels:
Sharks take back a much more expensive contract
NYI
  1. Barabanov, Alexander
Détails additionnels:
Cheap top 6 forward with another year on his deal. Currently on pace for 60 points
5.
SJS
  1. Vesalainen, Kristian [Liste de réserve]
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (WPG)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (WPG)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $71 452 501 $0 $82 500 $11 047 499 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
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6 750 000 $6 750 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 8
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4 725 000 $4 725 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
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950 000 $950 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Capitals de Washington
2 415 000 $2 415 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Islanders de New York
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD, AG, C
UFA - 2
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
750 000 $750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
C
UFA - 3
Logo de Rangers de New York
1 525 000 $1 525 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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842 500 $842 500 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
C
UFA - 1
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1 050 000 $1 050 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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762 500 $762 500 $
DG
UFA - 2
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10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
DG/DD
NMC
UFA - 4
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1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
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775 000 $775 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
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2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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750 000 $750 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
AD, C
RFA - 2
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ (Bonis de performance250 000 $$250K)
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Capitals de Washington
762 500 $762 500 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
850 000 $850 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Capitals de Washington
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2

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31 déc. 2022 à 15 h 37
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The Isles are not paying to dump Bailey.
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31 déc. 2022 à 15 h 37
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NYR would or excuse me Drury would most likely do that smile
31 déc. 2022 à 15 h 45
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I think the value for Couture is more than fair, I just don't think the Caps would do that given how well Strome has played, I'm sure they'd rather simply extend him
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31 déc. 2022 à 15 h 55
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I think the value for Couture is more than fair, I just don't think the Caps would do that given how well Strome has played, I'm sure they'd rather simply extend him


I was thinking he would replace backstrom. Kuznetsov, couture and Strome down the middle would be good
31 déc. 2022 à 15 h 56
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The Isles are not paying to dump Bailey.


Why wouldn’t they do this? They get a player who is younger and produces more for half the cost
31 déc. 2022 à 15 h 59
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Why wouldn’t they do this? They get a player who is younger and produces more for half the cost


Barbanov is not a top 6 winger, he’s a mediocre 3rd liner

Isles don’t need the cap space
31 déc. 2022 à 16 h 3
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Quoting: glarson17
Why wouldn’t they do this? They get a player who is younger and produces more for half the cost


Barabanov has 6 more points than Bailey this year with a career PPG of .54 vs Bailey's career PPG of .55. He is hardly a better player, and would be just another mid-6 player that the Isles do not need. Barabanov would get maybe a 2nd right now, more likely has the value of a 3rd round pick. The Isles are far better off buying out Bailey in the offseason rather then trading him.
31 déc. 2022 à 16 h 9
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Quoting: Warrior24
The Isles are not paying to dump Bailey.


Quoting: Db1899
Barbanov is not a top 6 winger, he’s a mediocre 3rd liner

Isles don’t need the cap space


if they want to improve their offense cap savings will be vital! and Barabanov is not Mediocre! since joint the sharks he’s been on a .63 ppg rate and makes 2.5 mil. he is a solid middle 6 wing and does a lot of little things that lead to scoring chances.
31 déc. 2022 à 16 h 15
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Quoting: krakowitz
I think the value for Couture is more than fair, I just don't think the Caps would do that given how well Strome has played, I'm sure they'd rather simply extend him


Couture is still a solid top 6 C but if i was Washington i would consider but probably pass. or counter with a little less value. but with washington going all in to try and get Ovechkin to pass the great one and try and win another cup this might not be a bad idea.
31 déc. 2022 à 16 h 23
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
if they want to improve their offense cap savings will be vital! and Barabanov is not Mediocre! since joint the sharks he’s been on a .63 ppg rate and makes 2.5 mil. he is a solid middle 6 wing and does a lot of little things that lead to scoring chances.


The Isles are not trading a 1st to dump Bailey and there is no reason for the Isles to acquire a Mid-6 forward when they are a team of Mid-6 forwards. When healthy he would not replace Lee, Beau, Wahlstrom, Palmeri, Parise or even Bailey. The Isles are either looking for a legit top line winger or will go with the current group of forwards.
31 déc. 2022 à 16 h 24
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
if they want to improve their offense cap savings will be vital! and Barabanov is not Mediocre! since joint the sharks he’s been on a .63 ppg rate and makes 2.5 mil. he is a solid middle 6 wing and does a lot of little things that lead to scoring chances.


He played with elite talent, he’s a passenger on his lines
31 déc. 2022 à 16 h 26
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He played with elite talent, he’s a passenger on his lines


really! because last year couture struggled and this year playing with him and a depth W on the the other side is having a solid rebound year! have to think Barbi has something to do with that! coutures numbers this year without him on his wing are much worse than with him on it. whatever keep Bailey Barbi is a better player and i would rather him over the 1st and bailey to be totally fair.
31 déc. 2022 à 16 h 40
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really! because last year couture struggled and this year playing with him and a depth W on the the other side is having a solid rebound year! have to think Barbi has something to do with that! coutures numbers this year without him on his wing are much worse than with him on it. whatever keep Bailey Barbi is a better player and i would rather him over the 1st and bailey to be totally fair.


A team that needs to rebuild would rather have a mediocre 3rd liner over a cap dump and a 1st. Sure thing
31 déc. 2022 à 17 h 2
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Is Labanc available, and if so what do you think is fair value for him?
31 déc. 2022 à 17 h 17
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Barbanov is not a top 6 winger, he’s a mediocre 3rd liner

Isles don’t need the cap space


Mediocre third liners don’t score at a 60 point pace, you’re ignorant
31 déc. 2022 à 17 h 20
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Is Labanc available, and if so what do you think is fair value for him?


I think everyone is available. He’s having a good bounce back year, he just needs to play with other good players. I would think it depends if there is retention in his deal. He almost makes $5 mil aav with next year on the deal too
31 déc. 2022 à 17 h 25
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Mediocre third liners don’t score at a 60 point pace, you’re ignorant


Who’s at a 60 pt pace? it sure isn’t Barabanov. He has 4 goals in 32 games. That is not top 6 caliber.
31 déc. 2022 à 17 h 33
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A team that needs to rebuild would rather have a mediocre 3rd liner over a cap dump and a 1st. Sure thing


sounds like you want him but are trying to belittle him to get him on the cheap. and since when is a guy on pace for 60 points a mediocre 3rd liner? your in a fantasy world budddy
31 déc. 2022 à 17 h 35
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Who’s at a 60 pt pace? it sure isn’t Barabanov. He has 4 goals in 32 games. That is not top 6 caliber.

actually on pace for 50 not 60, but he isn’t a goal scorer he’s a set up guy! his skill is winning puck battles along the boards sick handeling and dishing it to teammates. 10-15 goals a season his what i would expect to go along with 35-45 assists.
he and each line should have a sniper a 2 way guy and a set up guy. it makes for a nice balance.
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Is Labanc available, and if so what do you think is fair value for him?

probably available but his value i’m not sure of, hard to know if his production lately is due to his line or him right now.
31 déc. 2022 à 17 h 46
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
sounds like you want him but are trying to belittle him to get him on the cheap. and since when is a guy on pace for 60 points a mediocre 3rd liner? your in a fantasy world budddy


Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
actually on pace for 50 not 60, but he isn’t a goal scorer he’s a set up guy! his skill is winning puck battles along the boards sick handeling and dishing it to teammates. 10-15 goals a season his what i would expect to go along with 35-45 assists.
he and each line should have a sniper a 2 way guy and a set up guy. it makes for a nice balance.


I wouldn’t even pay a 3rd for barabanov.
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I wouldn’t even pay a 3rd for barabanov.
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Fine then don’t. Nobody wants baileys crusty ass at $5.5 mil, y’all can keep him. Barabanov will be the same player for half the price but that’s fine, we will send him elsewhere.
31 déc. 2022 à 18 h 13
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Quoting: glarson17
Fine then don’t. Nobody wants baileys crusty ass at $5.5 mil, y’all can keep him. Barabanov will be the same player for half the price but that’s fine, we will send him elsewhere.



barabanov isn't like, great? obviously no one wants bailey, but his deal is 5mil and with one year left it's not hard to buy him out and save about the amount of cap they would here and they keep the pick
31 déc. 2022 à 18 h 19
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Fine then don’t. Nobody wants baileys crusty ass at $5.5 mil, y’all can keep him. Barabanov will be the same player for half the price but that’s fine, we will send him elsewhere.


You’re right , no one wants baileys 5* mill . You like to embellish man, 5.5 mill, 60 pts lol.

Barabanov will be the same player for half the price but what you’re not getting is the isles have like 15 mill in deadline cap space …
31 déc. 2022 à 22 h 56
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I wouldn’t even pay a 3rd for barabanov.
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Look beyond Barabanov numbers and these metrics.
keep it simple last year he played with Hertl and Meier last year and both had solid jumps in production from they year before, now with those two you could argue he got lucky. but this year he was put on a line with Courure and Nieto, Couture is a short step down from a hertl and Nieto is a gigantic step down from Meier, and Barabanov even with that is still on pace for a career year and both Nieto and Couture are having much improved seasons over their previous years. can this be coincidence or could it be that Barbi helps make his linemates better? and if you don’t believe me go back and do some research.
 
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