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Créé par: RClay321
Équipe: 2022-23 Blues de St-Louis
Date de création initiale: 29 déc. 2022
Publié: 29 déc. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
STL
  1. Casey, Seamus [Liste de réserve]
2.
STL
  1. Knies, Matthew [Liste de réserve]
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
TOR
  1. O'Reilly, Ryan (3 750 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (STL)
3.
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2482 500 000 $68 075 000 $1 100 000 $3 300 000 $14 425 000 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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5 800 000 $5 800 000 $
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M-NTC
UFA - 3
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2 800 000 $2 800 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
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2 800 000 $2 800 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
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835 833 $835 833 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
AG, AD
RFA - 3
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
C, AG
NTC
UFA - 6
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
AG, AD
RFA - 1
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 4
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1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
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816 667 $816 667 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
C
RFA - 2
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750 000 $750 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
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826 667 $826 667 $ (Bonis de performance60 000 $$60K)
C
RFA - 3
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750 000 $750 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 4
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 5
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
G
NTC
UFA - 5
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1 900 000 $1 900 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 8
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1 250 000 $1 250 000 $ (Bonis de performance250 000 $$250K)
G
UFA - 1
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808 333 $808 333 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
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950 000 $950 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
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762 500 $762 500 $
DG
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 5
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3 275 000 $3 275 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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750 000 $750 000 $
DG
RFA - 1

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29 déc. 2022 à 18 h 42
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The leafs arnt giving up a 1st and knies for 2 months of ror or anyone
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29 déc. 2022 à 18 h 44
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You basically stole Buch from us and now you coming after Laffy... add your first and NYR give DAL first
29 déc. 2022 à 18 h 46
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Gonna be a no from NJ. Casey is one of the best defensemen in college hockey right now. A Barbashev equivalent can likely be found for cheaper on the market

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29 déc. 2022 à 19 h 11
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Gonna be a no from NJ. Casey is one of the best defensemen in college hockey right now. A Barbashev equivalent can likely be found for cheaper on the market




"One of the best in college" does not mean he's a prime or even good NHL prospect. The guy is tiny, so the Blues almost certainly don't rate him.
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29 déc. 2022 à 19 h 31
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"One of the best in college" does not mean he's a prime or even good NHL prospect. The guy is tiny, so the Blues almost certainly don't rate him.


Torey Krug is the same height. I'm sure the Blues don't rate him
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29 déc. 2022 à 19 h 31
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Barbashev isn't needed on the Devils, especially at the price of Casey
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29 déc. 2022 à 19 h 33
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Gotta say, all three trades have fair value for Blues and the three non Blues teams.
Really depends on whether teams think the short term gain is worth it. If not these teams, gotta think the Blues can get that value from other teams.
Nice post.
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29 déc. 2022 à 19 h 36
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"One of the best in college" does not mean he's a prime or even good NHL prospect. The guy is tiny, so the Blues almost certainly don't rate him.


I’d keep the boom or bust prospect instead of giving him up for a guy that can be found wherever for less. Or use him to acquire a higher quality talent than Barbashev
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29 déc. 2022 à 19 h 39
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Torey Krug is the same height. I'm sure the Blues don't rate him


1 - Yes, Krug is the same height... and weighs 25 pounds more. Tiny isn't just about height.
2 - Krug also has a decade of being a solid 2nd pairing D-man/PP quarterback. Slight difference there.
3 - I'm pretty sure how they rate Krug is dropping quickly at this point. Because, ya know, he's just not big enough to defend in the trenches, try as he might.

Gonna need to work on those equivalencies, my man.
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29 déc. 2022 à 19 h 42
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I’d keep the boom or bust prospect instead of giving him up for a guy that can be found wherever for less. Or use him to acquire a higher quality talent than Barbashev


That's completely fair for you to feel that way, but it doesn't magically make Casey some sort of blue chipper. As for Barby, good luck finding a player like him "wherever for less". But just to be clear, I'm not asking for anything because I'm not trying to trade him. I was only reeling in the picture painted of Casey.
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29 déc. 2022 à 19 h 51
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That's completely fair for you to feel that way, but it doesn't magically make Casey some sort of blue chipper. As for Barby, good luck finding a player like him "wherever for less". But just to be clear, I'm not asking for anything because I'm not trying to trade him. I was only reeling in the picture painted of Casey.


He was a first round rated prospect by most outlets, and has been looked at as an *early* steal since the draft. I’d take a chance on him, and trade a 2nd for a better player like Adam Henrique every day.
29 déc. 2022 à 19 h 54
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1 - Yes, Krug is the same height... and weighs 25 pounds more. Tiny isn't just about height.
2 - Krug also has a decade of being a solid 2nd pairing D-man/PP quarterback. Slight difference there.
3 - I'm pretty sure how they rate Krug is dropping quickly at this point. Because, ya know, he's just not big enough to defend in the trenches, try as he might.

Gonna need to work on those equivalencies, my man.


Players add weight over time. Casey is only 18 while Krug is 31. Its not like Casey is going to stay 160 for his entire career
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29 déc. 2022 à 20 h 0
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He was a first round rated prospect by most outlets, and has been looked at as an *early* steal since the draft. I’d take a chance on him, and trade a 2nd for a better player like Adam Henrique every day.


He was taken 46th like five months ago, man. And however you want to slice it, he's still 160 lbs and college is still not the same as the NHL.
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29 déc. 2022 à 20 h 4
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Players add weight over time. Casey is only 18 while Krug is 31.


Except Krug was already 180 pounds before Boston signed him. My point is it's not an apt comparison.
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29 déc. 2022 à 20 h 10
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I don't think Lafreniere has to be moved for a rental even if it's Tarasenko, so many ufas in their prime I think the rentals are going to be really cool this year
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29 déc. 2022 à 20 h 15
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He was taken 46th like five months ago, man. And however you want to slice it, he's still 160 lbs and college is still not the same as the NHL.


Ahhhh I gotcha.
Data=ignored when it needs to fit a narrative
Small=bad
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29 déc. 2022 à 20 h 36
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Ahhhh I gotcha.
Data=ignored when it needs to fit a narrative
Small=bad


No, sorry, you don't gotcha. And suggesting that I'm the one ignoring data to push a narrative is the height of hilarious. Should we go ahead and look up the average size of NHL D-men? Or should we just count the percentage of NHL D-men who weigh under 170 pounds? Or should we do 180?
29 déc. 2022 à 20 h 48
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No, sorry, you don't gotcha. And suggesting that I'm the one ignoring data to push a narrative is the height of hilarious. Should we go ahead and look up the average size of NHL D-men? Or should we just count the percentage of NHL D-men who weigh under 170 pounds? Or should we do 180?


Ahhhh I gotcha.
Data=ignored when it needs to fit a narrative, and only size counts
Small=really really bad
29 déc. 2022 à 21 h 36
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Ahhhh I gotcha.
Data=ignored when it needs to fit a narrative, and only size counts
Small=really really bad


Sure, man. Lean into those straw men even harder. That always works.
29 déc. 2022 à 21 h 42
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Sure, man. Lean into those straw men even harder. That always works.


Seamus Casey is a more valuable asset than Ivan Barbashev. I don’t know what else to tell you when you literally are ignoring the tweet I posted because he’s small and in college (outperforming Luke Hughes in some cases)
29 déc. 2022 à 21 h 52
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Seamus Casey is a more valuable asset than Ivan Barbashev. I don’t know what else to tell you when you literally are ignoring the tweet I posted because he’s small and in college (outperforming Luke Hughes in some cases)


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29 déc. 2022 à 22 h 3
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Torey Krug is the same height. I'm sure the Blues don't rate him


They "rate" him...OVER-rated him by that contract.
29 déc. 2022 à 22 h 28
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Why?
30 déc. 2022 à 7 h 44
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Why?


Dudes a massive St Louis homer, not worth your effort. If the situation was flipped and the devils were offering Barbashev for Casey, this kid would be screaming bloody murder at how lopsided the trade is.
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30 déc. 2022 à 9 h 16
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Dudes a massive St Louis homer, not worth your effort. If the situation was flipped and the devils were offering Barbashev for Casey, this kid would be screaming bloody murder at how lopsided the trade is.


Oh I know! I just wanted to see if he had literally anything to bring to the table besides Smol and in college
 
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