Fair price for Puljujarvi.

That seams like a lot of things to get rid of and do just so you can get Parayko. There are pending UFA dmen out there that would come at a much lower cost that you can get teams to retain on so you also don't have to trade Foegele.

just more of a thought experiment

Fair point. Just in my brain that works out to Parayko and a 5th for JP, Foegele, Barrie, Broberg, Wanner, Savoie, 1st, 2nd and 3rd. That's alot. I do love the idea of Parayko to Edmonton but I think just Barrie and Jesse going the other way with a pick and prosect is probably fine. I also wouldn't add Broberg in that deal. With Broberg the left side is set for the next 5 years. We need the Right shot dman at a different cost. What would you think of:

EDM gets:
Parayko

STL gets:
Barrie
Puljujarvi
Schaefer
1st

That’s a steep price for Parayko. Blues would be silly not to do it.

I'd probably do it as a blues fan if we were totally rebuilding but I doubt the blues trade Parayko

For me it's a done deal. Parayko hasn't been the worst d-man for the Blues but he certainly hasn't been good enough. It's already time to freshen things up and he may be the only one in the top 4 who is moveable (which is sad). If this is around the deadline, I don't see why they couldn't even take on someone like Foegele to seal the deal. If guys like ROR and Tarasenko are going to be moved there would be room in the lineup. The defense would suck even worse without Parayko but getting some draft capital for this offseason and opening up some cap flexibility are crucial first steps if they want to compete again. Then they gotta find young talent which is the hard part.

Uhhh no.

Good feedback...

Do I really need to explain that this is an overtly unappetizing offer for the Blues. I keep telling people, you can't just pile up a bunch of stuff they don't want for a ornerstone player that is crazy difficult and expensive to replace. It's not a suitable teardown trade or a suitable trying to compete trade. It's half of both and not good enough for either.

So you’re telling me a team looking to move on from a “corner stone” player wouldn’t be interested in a first round pick, a world juniors caliber prospect, and project player that for a retooling team might break out and help a quicker rebuild. It’s basically two first round picks and like a 3rd. look at the recent packages for players. Eichel didn’t return this much for the Sabres.

In what world do you imagine the Blues "looking to move on" from Parayko? There's a lot more to unpack here, but let's just start simple.

Just saying hypothetically. If they aren't looking to move him all these rumours are mute anyway. But if the blues are on the brink of a rebuild, first round picks and high-end prospects are exactly what teams want. But if you just want to start simple, the Oilers first round pick this year, their first round pick from last year, and a player that has a ton of raw skill but needs a new home are three appealing pieces. Gotta include Barrie to make the cap work from the Oilers side but he's also got value in being a hole filler for the blues and a future (easily) tradeable asset. Don't over value the blues players just because you're a fan. You aren't getting the equivalent of four first round picks for any player.

I said not a single word about expecting four 1st round picks or any such thing, so enough with the strawman. I said your offer was "overtly unappetizing offer for the Blues", which it so very much is. AND there are no rumors. None. Meanwhile, as you accuse me for some unknown reason of overvaluing Blues players, a guy who publicly questioned if he can hack it in the NHL gets the basically "like a third (1st round pick)" treatment.

Funny stuff, man.

"Overtly unappetizing" would suggest you think two first round picks and a young project player isn't enough and that you expect the equivalent of three-four first round picks. Never said Jesse was worth a 1st. Infact, he's likely somewhere between a 2 and 3. Add Barrie and you have around the value of three first round picks. Never meant rumors to mean real rumblings. I said in this hypothetical situation and then said rumors meaning the CapFriendly community buzzing about dealing him over the last few weeks. So, like I have repeated, keep over valuing your players and having no fun looking at realistic trade offers.