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Créé par: bogdown

Équipe: 2022-23 Canucks de Vancouver

Date de création initiale: 22 déc. 2022

Publié: 22 déc. 2022

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

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Canucks targeting young players under 25 in any deal. Schenn, Horvat, Garland biggest assets (trading Kuzmenko would be stupid).

Horvat trade Canucks want back a young RHD, a centre, and a draft pick. Barron or Kovacevic, Dvorak, and a second is fair value for Horvat. Horvat replaces Dvorak as 2C behind Suzuki.

Foote is stuck in a depth role behind Perbix and Cernak. Similar to the Bear situation, Canucks send Schenn who is the equivalent of a late second or third (cheap, physical, RHD) and a fourth rounder.

Garland is signed for the next four years or something on a good deal for a winger. Poehling is a good young centre who would fill the role for the Canucks. Garland is easily worth a second rounder.

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VAN

Barron, Justin
Dvorak, Christian
Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (MTL)

MTL

Horvat, Bo

VAN

Foote, Cal

TBL

Schenn, Luke
Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (VAN)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2023
2024
2025

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TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
24	82 500 000 $	76 555 278 $	1 250 000 $	2 377 500 $	5 944 722 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Mikheyev, Ilya 4 750 000 $4 750 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 4	Pettersson, Elias 7 350 000 $7 350 000 $ C, AG UFA - 2	Kuzmenko, Andrei 950 000 $950 000 $ (850 000 $$850K) AG, AD UFA - 1
Miller, J.T. 5 250 000 $5 250 000 $ C, AG, AD UFA - 1	Dvorak, Christian 4 450 000 $4 450 000 $ C UFA - 3	Boeser, Brock 6 650 000 $6 650 000 $ AD UFA - 3
Podkolzin, Vasily 925 000 $925 000 $ (850 000 $$850K) AD, AG RFA - 2	Karlsson, Linus 883 750 $883 750 $ (82 500 $$82K) AD RFA - 2	Höglander, Nils 891 667 $891 667 $ (300 000 $$300K) AG, AD RFA - 1
Joshua, Dakota 825 000 $825 000 $ AG UFA - 2	Poehling, Ryan 750 000 $750 000 $ C, AG UFA - 1	Studnicka, Jack 762 500 $762 500 $ AD, C RFA - 2
	Åman, Nils 883 750 $883 750 $ (82 500 $$82K) C RFA - 2	Lazar, Curtis 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ AD, C UFA - 3

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Hughes, Quinn 7 850 000 $7 850 000 $ DG UFA - 5	Bear, Ethan 1 800 000 $1 800 000 $ DD UFA - 1	Martin, Spencer 762 500 $762 500 $ G UFA - 2
Ekman-Larsson, Oliver 7 260 000 $7 260 000 $ DG NMC UFA - 5	Barron, Justin 925 000 $925 000 $ (212 500 $$212K) DD RFA - 2	Silovs, Arturs 786 111 $786 111 $ G RFA - 2
Stillman, Riley 1 350 000 $1 350 000 $ DG RFA - 2	Foote, Cal 850 000 $850 000 $ DD RFA - 1
Burroughs, Kyle 750 000 $750 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1	Myers, Tyler 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 2

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
	Demko, Thatcher 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ G UFA - 4	Ferland, Micheal 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 1
	Pearson, Tanner 3 250 000 $3 250 000 $ AG M-NTC UFA - 2	Poolman, Tucker 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ DD UFA - 3
		Dermott, Travis 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1

22 déc. 2022 à 12 h 34

Segar48

Rejoint: sept. 2020

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You don't want Dvorak as your 2nd center

22 déc. 2022 à 12 h 34

Dan_the_Man

Rejoint: oct. 2022

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A fourth coming with Schenn I'd do, however think it comes back to bite TB in the a$$

bogdown a aimé ceci.

22 déc. 2022 à 12 h 39

bogdown

Démarrer sujet

Bog

Rejoint: oct. 2022

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Quoting: Segar48

You don't want Dvorak as your 2nd center

We also don't want Miller as our second line center.

22 déc. 2022 à 12 h 41

dannibalcorpse

we miss leo k

Rejoint: févr. 2018

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-Why is Montreal trading a pick and a prospect for a rental? If they really like Horvat, why not sign him in the summer and hope the fact that you're running a lesser team in 22-23 gives you a better pick?

-If RHD Cal Foote is buried on Tampa's depth chart, why would they trade him for another RHD? Wouldn't it make more sense to move him for a player at a position they don't have the same amount of depth at?

-Pittsburgh doesn't have the cap space to add Garland's $4.95M cap hit once Jeff Petry comes back. I could see them potentially sending back a Kasperi Kapanen or Brock McGinn and trying to make the numbers work, but I think if you're trading Garland mid-season you're gonna have to take a sizable contract back.

22 déc. 2022 à 12 h 44

LukaTAG

Rejoint: juin 2021

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Not nearly enough for Horvat

22 déc. 2022 à 12 h 59

mv21227

Rejoint: juill. 2020

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Hot at gets a far better return

Why are we trading Garland for a fringe NHLer? That’s terrible asset management

22 déc. 2022 à 13 h 7

imawesome

I want Gourde back

Rejoint: juin 2018

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I'd accept that. pretty easily

22 déc. 2022 à 13 h 56

Just_A_Guess

Rejoint: avr. 2021

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The value in the Bo trade favours MTL but MTL still declines. Trading Barron or higher end picks is not in our cards. I'd love to have Bo but we're not in a position to give VAN the assets they'll need to make a deal.

Campabee a aimé ceci.

22 déc. 2022 à 14 h 1

Campabee

Rejoint: nov. 2018

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1. Montreal is harder up for RHD than Vancouver is
2. Barron has a lot more value than Kovacevic so if you think Kovacevic is worth a 2nd then Barron is worth a mid 1st (15-20 range)

I think a deal could be made but I don't think it would make sense for the Habs to go after Horvat and I don't think the Canucks would like the offer from the Habs either. I think if the Habs made an offer it would be something like this:

2024 1st (unprotected) + Mailloux or Roy or Kidney or Ylonen + 2023 2nd + an expiring contract (Drouin or Dadanov half retained)

22 déc. 2022 à 14 h 8

#10

DucharmetheDOMinator

v5 Minnesota GM

Rejoint: janv. 2022

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I like the value for the Habs except, there is no way Barron is moving. He's our only legit RHD prospect, he's pretty much untouchable.

22 déc. 2022 à 14 h 10

#11

Pens3lieve

Hockey IQ

Rejoint: mai 2019

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if that's all PIT has to pay then i'd do that easily... i'd want to send kapanen or dumoulin back for salary reasons tho... i'll throw in a mid pick too

22 déc. 2022 à 15 h 15

#12

Boltsradynasty

Miss YA Killer

Rejoint: juin 2022

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Quoting: dannibalcorpse

Not a big Schenn Fan , however TB hasn't used less than 9 defenseman in a playoff season since being swept in 19 . So going below that number is a risk hopefully they don't take

22 déc. 2022 à 15 h 17

#13

Juiceman

Ex Nucks fan

Rejoint: juin 2021

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That Horvat trade is the kind that gets a GM fired... A B prospect, 3rd liner, and a second doesn't get our captain who is playing out of his mind. Why would Montreal even need him anyway? They aren't making the playoffs this year

22 déc. 2022 à 17 h 32

#14

Mental_yuppi

Rejoint: nov. 2022

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I'm glad you "wnat" to get younger, the habs ARE in the process of getting younger l, we ain't interested and barron isn't available

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