Definitely not. There'll be teams that offer more.

It’s a pointless question because the scenario you’re laying out simply will not happen.

Teams will pay a 1st plus for Bo. It’s not a question of “if”

Just like teams were willing to pay a 1st plus last year for JT Miller?

If you think that’s the best offer they will get, you don’t know a damn thing

Certainly missing a 2023 1st and Neimela

There's teams out there that would easily outbid the Leafs, And that's not even close to getting Horvat.

I assume reading comprehension is not your strong suit.

I asked, "What is the threshold between just keeping him as an own rental for a hopeful run at the playoffs vs trading him for the "best" package possible?"

The trade I threw in there was a conversation starter.

I'm not a Canucks fan, but to answer your question, if I'm not getting at least a 1st and a prospect, I'm keeping him.

It’s been confirmed that NYR offered Chytil, lundkvist and a first for miller last season and the Canucks turned it down

So your idea of “best package possible” is depth forward, a B props and two thirds? There’s zero reason for them to do that they would keep him if unless get a great return

People really have trouble reading on this site.

well they made a blunder by re-signing him but that doesn't change the interest that was there

unfortunate decline lol. agree with you here but man they really should've sold high on JT

You're getting closer, but still not quite there. This isn't my idea of anything other than a thought experiment on "what is the floor on what Canucks fans will accept?"

Or in other words, this is a scenario, one of many possibilities, not a prediction or legitimate proposal.

Just to make this easier, lets say Colorado went after Toews, Boston traded for O'Reilly, Dallas adds Monahan, Buffalo, Detroit, and Washington are too far out of the playoffs to make an add at the deadline. So this is a worst case scenario for the Canucks because the market has basically dried up. It's down to one team (and honestly, it doesn't have to be the Leafs, substitute any team here).

In that scenario, what is the least you would accept for Horvat?

Jesus H! Can people not read or comprehend? The OP is basically asking 'If the market is dry, do you hold onto Horvat and risk a) trying to sign him later and potentially risk losing him for nothing in free agency or do you b) take the best offer still available, and if option b then what is the weakest offer you'd be willing to accept. Sure, it's hypothetical and someone probably pays up for him but it's kind of the idea of the site, being hypothetical and all!

The least I'd be happy with for Horvat is a 2023 1st and a solid RHD prospect. I don't think the Canucks will have any troubles getting that and would probably get more, but that's the base minimum I'd have. By the sounds of things Horvat may be the top trade chip available at the deadline, meaning there could quite possibly end up being a bidding war for his services, so I don't think getting value for him will be a problem.

In the above scenario I simply don't know what I would do in the GM's shoes. I'd be looking for a first plus solid prospect to make the move to begin with so I guess if it's a mix of prospects/picks with at least one really solid one then that's the bottom end but then I'm also not a Vancouver fan. There has to come a point where the value simply isn't enough and even though you risk losing him for nothing you don't accept in case an eleventh hour better offer comes in.

Playing devil's advocate: why should a team pay that much for the 35th-50th best center in the league? He's what, the 9th best center in the Pacific? (McDavid, Draisaitl, Eichel, Hertl, Lindholm, Kadri, Kopitar, Pettersson). Maybe the 10th or 11th depending on how people feel about Beniers, Zegras, or Stephenson. Is that really worth a 1st ++? Most of the teams he's rumored to go to, he'd be the 4th or 5th best forward on their team. If I'm Colorado for example, why am I spending a 2023 1st plus Newhook, plus another piece for 40ish games of the 5th best forward on my team? I could get that much cheaper somewhere else.

I think that's probably where I'd end up too. The 3C with upside would be nice, but I would imagine the main priority would be shoring up the blueline at this point.

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Teams trade first round picks plus for top 6 forwards every deadline and often for players worse than Bo Horvat

Really starting to regret that now.

There is no threshold. If he's not signed by the TDL, he'll be traded. There is no way they keep him for a shot at the playoffs.

Even if the Leafs viewed Horvat as a piece worth pursuing, which they probably shouldn't, unless they are willing to part with Nylander, they don't have a premier young player to offer. They can only go the quantity over quality route, so if they really do want to come to the table on this, they better be prepared to part with two first round picks, to start with. One for Horvat, and one for making the money work: either through retention, through taking back a middling player in the deal or both.

Don't regret the rumoured NYR deal a bit. I wouldn't have done it then, and I wouldn't do it now. Miller is top 15 in league scoring since becoming a Canuck. You want a premier player, offer a premier asset in return.