Karlsson no retention scenario what does edmonton need to add

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Créé par: leafs101

Équipe: 2022-23 Oilers d'Edmonton

Date de création initiale: 11 déc. 2022

Publié: 11 déc. 2022

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

EDM takes the bigger contract, but also by far the best player in the deal. They offload Campbell who is proving to be worth closer to his 1.6M contract than his 5M deal, as well Barrie and Foegle to make the cap work. An even number of contracts are swapped.

SJ doesn't get any value back for Karlsson aside from whatever they can flip half retained Barrie for, but gets a significant portion off of the books. If they can rebuild Campbell, they immediately look to flip him.

To me SJS likely declines this - they may as well retain 5M on Karlsson and get a very nice return than take on Campbell unless they think they can rebuild his play. But interesting thought nonetheless.

Maybe EDM has to add a first rounder and then it gets more interesting - consider this the base and then we can discuss what needs to be added

Transactions

EDM

SJS

EDM

Comrie, Eric (900 000 $ retained)
Hinostroza, Vinnie

BUF

Rachats de contrats

James Neal: 1 916 667 $
Andrej Sekera: 1 500 000 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Milan Lucic: 750 000 $ (12.5%)

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
21	82 500 000 $	80 962 333 $	896 000 $	2 200 000 $	1 537 667 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Kane, Evander 5 125 000 $5 125 000 $ AG, AD NMC UFA - 4	McDavid, Connor 12 500 000 $12 500 000 $ C NMC UFA - 4	Yamamoto, Kailer 3 100 000 $3 100 000 $ AD RFA - 2
	Draisaitl, Leon 8 500 000 $8 500 000 $ C, AG M-NTC, NMC UFA - 3	Hyman, Zach 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AD, AG NMC UFA - 6
Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan 5 125 000 $5 125 000 $ AG, C NMC UFA - 7	McLeod, Ryan 798 000 $798 000 $ C RFA - 1	Hinostroza, Vinnie 1 700 000 $1 700 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1
Holloway, Dylan 925 000 $925 000 $ (500 000 $$500K) AG, C RFA - 2		Kostin, Klim 750 000 $750 000 $ AG, AD RFA - 1
Janmark, Mattias 1 250 000 $1 250 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Ryan, Derek 1 250 000 $1 250 000 $ C, AD UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Nurse, Darnell 9 250 000 $9 250 000 $ DG NMC UFA - 8	Karlsson, Erik 10 000 000 $10 000 000 $ DD NMC UFA - 5
Kulak, Brett 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 4	Bouchard, Evan 863 333 $863 333 $ (850 000 $$850K) DD RFA - 1	Skinner, Stuart 750 000 $750 000 $ G UFA - 1
Broberg, Philip 863 333 $863 333 $ (850 000 $$850K) DG RFA - 2	Ceci, Cody 3 250 000 $3 250 000 $ DD UFA - 3	Comrie, Eric 900 000 $900 000 $ G UFA - 2

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Murray, Ryan 750 000 $750 000 $ DG UFA - 1		Klefbom, Oscar 4 167 000 $4 167 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 1
		Smith, Mike 2 200 000 $2 200 000 $ G UFA - 1

Équipe de réserve
Svechnikov, Evgeny 750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) AG, AD UFA - 1
Harrington, Scott 750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) DG UFA - 1
Hamblin, James 807 500 $807 500 $ (0 $$00 $$0) AD, C RFA - 2
Shore, Devin 850 000 $850 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) AG, C, AD UFA - 1
Malone, Brad 762 500 $762 500 $ (0 $$00 $$0) C, AG UFA - 2

11 déc. 2022 à 17 h 45

Kjell_Forsman

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Sharks very much decline.

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11 déc. 2022 à 17 h 45

TMLBRIAN

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Probably both teams decline.

EK is not what Edmonton needs. They need a bunch of guys who are super defensive,

11 déc. 2022 à 17 h 46

leafs101

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Quoting: Kjell_Forsman

Sharks very much decline.

i agree but what would EDM need to add

because this is about one of the only scenarios I can see SJS not having to retain anything to deal Karlsson

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11 déc. 2022 à 18 h 7

IDKtbh

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I think we need to consider what is an $11.5m Karlsson worth? I think that’s a super tough question.

With significant retention, he’s worth a kings ransom and at 50% he’s worth arguably more than he was traded for initially.

At $11.5m; I think his value will be in taking back a terrible contract to offset a chunk of that incoming salary and then SJ can get closer to his actual value.

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11 déc. 2022 à 18 h 18

Shibbal18

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Unless UPL starts stealing games, I don't think the Sabres will want to move Comrie, especially with retention

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11 déc. 2022 à 18 h 34

glarson17

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Quoting: leafs101

i agree but what would EDM need to add

because this is about one of the only scenarios I can see SJS not having to retain anything to deal Karlsson

Like a 1st and Bourgault

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11 déc. 2022 à 19 h 17

Kjell_Forsman

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Quoting: leafs101

i agree but what would EDM need to add

because this is about one of the only scenarios I can see SJS not having to retain anything to deal Karlsson

Sharks would prefer to move him with retention so we can get picks and prospects back. Moving him for vets is zero sum gain.

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11 déc. 2022 à 19 h 43

jakdonaghy

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Tough to imagine the right offer but definitely no point of unloading EK65 for the sake of cap space.

Probably Puljujarvi, Holloway, a first? for EK65 and some retention. Possibly adding in Barrie for salary purposes

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