Debrincat

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Créé par: ToneCapone420

Équipe: 2022-23 Maple Leafs de Toronto

Date de création initiale: 2 déc. 2022

Publié: 2 déc. 2022

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

LISTE DE RÉSERVE		ANS	CAP HIT
Knies, Matthew		3	925 000 $

Transactions

TOR

DeBrincat, Alex (3 200 000 $ retained)

OTT

Kerfoot, Alexander
Minten, Fraser
Niemelä, Topi
Voit, Ty
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (TOR)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2023
2024
2025

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	82 500 000 $	81 095 413 $	212 500 $	0 $	1 404 587 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Bunting, Michael 950 000 $950 000 $ AG UFA - 1	Matthews, Auston 11 640 250 $11 640 250 $ C UFA - 2	Nylander, William 6 962 366 $6 962 366 $ AD UFA - 2
DeBrincat, Alex 3 200 000 $3 200 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Tavares, John 11 000 000 $11 000 000 $ C, AG NMC UFA - 3	Marner, Mitchell 10 903 000 $10 903 000 $ AD UFA - 3
Knies, Matthew 925 000 $925 000 $ AG, AD RFA - 3	Holmberg, Pontus 827 500 $827 500 $ C, AG RFA - 1	Engvall, Pierre 2 250 000 $2 250 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1
Aston-Reese, Zach 840 630 $840 630 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Kämpf, David 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ C UFA - 1	Järnkrok, Calle 2 100 000 $2 100 000 $ AD, C, AG M-NTC UFA - 4
Robertson, Nicholas 796 667 $796 667 $ AG, AD RFA - 2		Simmonds, Wayne 900 000 $900 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 1
		Malgin, Denis 750 000 $750 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Rielly, Morgan 7 500 000 $7 500 000 $ DG NMC UFA - 8	Brodie, TJ 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ DG/DD NTC UFA - 2	Murray, Matt 4 687 500 $4 687 500 $ G M-NTC UFA - 2
Giordano, Mark 800 000 $800 000 $ DG UFA - 2		Samsonov, Ilya 1 800 000 $1 800 000 $ G UFA - 1
Sandin, Rasmus 1 400 000 $1 400 000 $ DG UFA - 2	Liljegren, Timothy 1 400 000 $1 400 000 $ DD RFA - 2
	Holl, Justin 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
	Benn, Jordie 750 000 $750 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1	Muzzin, Jake 5 625 000 $5 625 000 $ DG NTC UFA - 2

2 déc. 2022 à 13 h 50

sens65

Rejoint: mars 2018

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Ah the usual, give me your star player and we'll shovel some **** down your throat in return.

Not that these aren't good pieces, but the only way we trade DeBrincat is if we get a top-four defenceman coming back + more.

2 déc. 2022 à 13 h 53

ToneCapone420

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Quoting: sens65

Leafs dont need to shovel **** down Ottawa's throat cause they're already ****

2 déc. 2022 à 13 h 54

sens65

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Quoting: ToneCapone420

Leafs dont need to shovel **** down Ottawa's throat cause they're already ****

Exactly, we don't need any more ****, we have plenty as is.

2 déc. 2022 à 13 h 54

Kyle_Okposo_Lover

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Quoting: sens65

this is pretty great for Ottawa tbh. You could easily flip one of the picks and another smaller asset for a top 4 defenseman lol

Voit and Minten are lighting it up ands Niemela is basically NHL ready, Kerfoot is just a throw in and two firsts. I get it if it doesnt fit the timeline but the value is incredible

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2 déc. 2022 à 13 h 59

Hawksguy81

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Sens should do this! Then trade one of the two firsts back to Leafs for the Cats RFA rights. No way Leafs can afford to resign him. The other first and the 3 prospects to rent Cat for the rest of this season.

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2 déc. 2022 à 14 h 5

Ichbinian

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Sens take this and run.

Debrincat is NOT the player the Leafs need! They need sandpaper! Go after Timo Meier.

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2 déc. 2022 à 14 h 8

sens65

Rejoint: mars 2018

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Quoting: oliver_wahlstrom

You can't just flip a prospect for a top 4 d, if you could Ottawa would have done it already.

2 déc. 2022 à 14 h 12

GMBL

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Modifié 2 déc. 2022 à 14 h 19

Quoting: sens65

You can't just flip a prospect for a top 4 d, if you could Ottawa would have done it already.

Ottawa doesn't want to give up their prospects or picks probably, they could easily just trade Niemela and those two Toronto 1sts for Chychrun.

Chychrun+Minten+Voit for DeBrincat isn't bad at all. If they go for a cheaper option than Chychrun then they can benefit a lot more from that trade.

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2 déc. 2022 à 14 h 28

sensonfire

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Ottawa spent ...

the 7th overall pick in 2022
the 39th overall pick in 2022
a 3rd round pick in 2024

on DeBrincat ...

Ottawa is receiving in this trade ...

Two 1st round picks in 2023/2024 with no conditions or lottery protection
Fraser Minten (38th overall pick in 2022)
Topi Niemela (64th overall pick in 2020)
Ty Voit (153rd overall pick in 2021)
Pending UFA Alex Kerfoot

for DeBrincat ...

When you add it all up, this is a home run for Ottawa.

My one piece of advice to @sens65 is to not bite the hand that feeds you.

Even if it's from an arch-rival like the Leafs.

Ottawa accepts.

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2 déc. 2022 à 14 h 38

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sens65

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Quoting: sensonfire

Ottawa spent ...

the 7th overall pick in 2022
the 39th overall pick in 2022
a 3rd round pick in 2024

on DeBrincat ...

Ottawa is receiving in this trade ...

Two 1st round picks in 2023/2024 with no conditions or lottery protection
Fraser Minten (38th overall pick in 2022)
Topi Niemela (64th overall pick in 2020)
Ty Voit (153rd overall pick in 2021)
Pending UFA Alex Kerfoot

for DeBrincat ...

When you add it all up, this is a home run for Ottawa.

My one piece of advice to sens65 is to not bite the hand that feeds you.

Even if it's from an arch-rival like the Leafs.

Ottawa accepts.

Those first round picks will be in the 17-25 range.

Minton and Voit are nowhere near being impactful NHL players. Niemela is a good prospect, Kerfoot has basically no value.

Value wise it might be good for Ottawa, but its not what Ottawa needs.

2 déc. 2022 à 14 h 45

#11

sensonfire

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Quoting: sens65

DeBrincat will want an extension with a cap hit of at least 9 million.

Also, draft picks are the most tradable currency in the NHL and every other professional sports league.

With just one of the 1st round picks acquired here plus a couple of other assets, we will be better able to trade for a Top 4 RD that we have coveted for so long.

Ottawa accepts.

2 déc. 2022 à 15 h 9

#12

NDoody

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Quoting: sens65

If Debrinkcat doesn't want to be reasonable with a long-term extension, then this is a good move, exactly not for Kerfoot. IT would have to be a legit top 6 player or top 4 RD, high end prospect, and a first minium. The leafs First isn't going to be a high one so it doesn't carry as much value.

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2 déc. 2022 à 15 h 55

#13

T0R

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This is a blatant overpay & not worth it in the absolute slightest

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