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Bs only move - Jeannot

Créé par: NICHILO14
Équipe: 2022-23 Bruins de Boston
Date de création initiale: 30 nov. 2022
Publié: 30 nov. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
May need to include a higher pick than a 3th (maybe the 2025 2nd depending on market value). Nonetheless, trading for Jeannot gets you a younger/cheaper upgrade over smith who can slot in a 3rd/4th line role. Also relieves cap space for Reilly to come back up as a 7th D over Stralman. This is the only move they'd need to make before playoffs IMO
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30 nov. 2022 à 22 h 40
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Yeah, that's not close for Jeannot. Cap dump alone probably costs a 3rd.
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30 nov. 2022 à 22 h 44
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Yeah, that's not close for Jeannot. Cap dump alone probably costs a 3rd.


Smith isn't a cap dump
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Smith isn't a cap dump


He is since he's of no interest.
30 nov. 2022 à 22 h 46
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He is since he's of no interest.


According to who? If he was placed on waivers, you're saying he wouldn't be claimed? I highly doubt it
30 nov. 2022 à 22 h 48
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According to who? If he was placed on waivers, you're saying he wouldn't be claimed? I highly doubt it


I don't think for a second that he'd be claimed at his cap hit.
30 nov. 2022 à 22 h 49
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Quoting: Just_A_Guess
He is since he's of no interest.


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According to who? If he was placed on waivers, you're saying he wouldn't be claimed? I highly doubt it


You’re both right….and wrong.

A team not having interest in a player doesn’t make him a cap dump necessarily.

That said, why would the preds have interest in smith? To them, it’s just a salary.

I think it will take a first to get jeannot.
30 nov. 2022 à 22 h 50
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According to who? If he was placed on waivers, you're saying he wouldn't be claimed? I highly doubt it


He's not of any interest to anyone. Claimed on waivers is not a good argument for establishing value. Nobody is going to pay you for him so you'll either waive him or pay to move him.
30 nov. 2022 à 22 h 52
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You’re both right….and wrong.

A team not having interest in a player doesn’t make him a cap dump necessarily.

That said, why would the preds have interest in smith? To them, it’s just a salary.

I think it will take a first to get jeannot.


It makes him a cap dump in this situation solely because NSH has less than 0 interest. Therefore, we would need to be compensated for taking on a player we don't want.
30 nov. 2022 à 22 h 53
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Quoting: Just_A_Guess
It makes him a cap dump in this situation solely because NSH has less than 0 interest. Therefore, we would need to be compensated for taking on a player we don't want.


I’m agreeing with you bud. Settle down.

A far better solution is moving smith to a different team in a separate transaction
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30 nov. 2022 à 22 h 57
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NSH declines. They don’t trade Jeannot for any payment like that
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30 nov. 2022 à 22 h 58
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I’m agreeing with you bud. Settle down.

A far better solution is moving smith to a different team in a separate transaction


Settle down? lol wtf are you talking about tears of joy I was continuing the conversation, take the bs elsewhere.
30 nov. 2022 à 23 h 0
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You’re both right….and wrong.

A team not having interest in a player doesn’t make him a cap dump necessarily.

That said, why would the preds have interest in smith? To them, it’s just a salary.

I think it will take a first to get jeannot.


Fair enough. I think the preds could have interest for Smith... the Bruins could add retention (-1.5M), they can play him in the top 6 which will give them flexibility. If out of the playoffs, flip at TDL for a 4th, 3rd (or maybe a 2nd) or roll with him in the playoffs and the money comes off the books next year + picks/prospects
30 nov. 2022 à 23 h 1
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Fair enough. I think the preds could have interest for Smith... the Bruins could add retention (-1.5M), they can play him in the top 6 which will give them flexibility. If out of the playoffs, flip at TDL for a 4th, 3rd (or maybe a 2nd) or roll with him in the playoffs and the money comes off the books next year + picks/prospects


Nashville doesn’t look like a playoff team.
30 nov. 2022 à 23 h 3
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Settle down? lol wtf are you talking about tears of joy I was continuing the conversation, take the bs elsewhere.


When someone agrees with you, and you repeat why you’re right, it generally comes off as combative.
30 nov. 2022 à 23 h 4
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Nashville doesn’t look like a playoff team.


In that case, flip at TDL...but i think Poille always has his playoffs in mind
30 nov. 2022 à 23 h 6
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In that case, flip at TDL...but i think Poille always has his playoffs in mind


“We don’t want this piece, but maybe we can flip it,” isn’t how NHL GMs think. Try again.
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30 nov. 2022 à 23 h 11
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“We don’t want this piece, but maybe we can flip it,” isn’t how NHL GMs think. Try again.


I think that's how a lot of GMs think actually, especially one's who are in or very close to a rebuild (e.g., Dadonov, Monahan, Kulikov)
30 nov. 2022 à 23 h 16
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I think that's how a lot of GMs think actually, especially one's who are in or very close to a rebuild (e.g., Dadonov, Monahan, Kulikov)


You realize calgary had to use a first round pick to move monahan, right?
30 nov. 2022 à 23 h 28
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You realize calgary had to use a first round pick to move monahan, right?


Yes, but tell me they didn’t think Mohanan had an upside which they could potentially leverage at the next TDL. A 6M cap hit does require a 1st to get rid of, not arguing that
30 nov. 2022 à 23 h 32
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Yes, but tell me they didn’t think Mohanan had an upside which they could potentially leverage at the next TDL. A 6M cap hit does require a 1st to get rid of, not arguing that


No. They thought they were getting a first round pick because they were getting a first round pick.

Seriously?
30 nov. 2022 à 23 h 36
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I like Smitty - but he's riding the pine for a reason.

re: ""Hustle w/ NO HANDS"" - is just hustle and that costs league minimum.
Not US$ 3.1M...........................
1 déc. 2022 à 0 h 34
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3th??
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1 déc. 2022 à 1 h 5
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1 - why do Preds move him?

2 - probably going to take a 1st without the salary dump , zboril and dipietro aren’t moving the needle.
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1 déc. 2022 à 10 h 41
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Jeannot is pretty much not available for blood or money. Scoring power forward types like him are increasingly rare and the Preds rely on him quite a bit. And there's literally nothing in that package that'd be of interest regardless of who or what the trade is for.
1 déc. 2022 à 11 h 1
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That doesn’t move the needle for Jeannot. needs at least a 1st & actually good prospects to entice Nashville, this doesn’t even get them to pick up the phone
 
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