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Équipe: 2022-23 Jets de Winnipeg
Date de création initiale: 24 nov. 2022
Publié: 24 nov. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Winnipeg has about $1.6M in accrued cap space from being below the cap since the start of the season. Therefore they can make this deal now and take on the entire cap hit.
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BUF
  1. Harkins, Jansen
  2. Torgersson, Daniel
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (WPG)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2182 500 000 $83 907 858 $0 $2 050 000 $-1 407 858 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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7 142 857 $7 142 857 $
AG
UFA - 4
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6 125 000 $6 125 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, C
RFA - 2
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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8 250 000 $8 250 000 $
AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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750 000 $750 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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750 000 $750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
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775 000 $775 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 2
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750 000 $750 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 6
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5 875 000 $5 875 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
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6 166 667 $6 166 667 $
G
UFA - 2
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3 900 000 $3 900 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
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5 950 000 $5 950 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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900 000 $900 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance350 000 $$350K)
DG
RFA - 1
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DD
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UFA - 2
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762 500 $762 500 $
DG
UFA - 2
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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2 166 667 $2 166 667 $
AD
UFA - 3
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, AD
RFA - 1
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900 000 $900 000 $
DG
RFA - 1

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24 nov. 2022 à 23 h 56
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This is an easy “NO” from the Sabres

You’re giving us nothing of value for a guy who is a top6 goal scorer

We’d be open to trading Olofsson,
but for the right price- not for junk
25 nov. 2022 à 0 h 22
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Harkins was waived and wouldn't being anything to give Buffalo a reason to promote him.
Torgersson isn't better than any prospect Buffalo already has.
So I don't see a reason why Buffalo does this.
Swap on of those guys with DeMelo and then Buffalo picks up the phone
25 nov. 2022 à 1 h 5
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Olofsson is pretty low on my list of trade targets. Rather not have another empty calorie scorer.
25 nov. 2022 à 1 h 59
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25 nov. 2022 à 8 h 45
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Olofsson is pretty low on my list of trade targets. Rather not have another empty calorie scorer.


Think we found someone's burner account. Very random
25 nov. 2022 à 9 h 3
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Think we found someone's burner account. Very random


What does empty calorie scorer even mean? lol

I see 7 of Olofsson's 10 goals are at even strength which is pretty decent, seems a bit streaky but most goal scorers are.

Anyone who watches the Jets can easily see they lack scoring, they really need more goal scorers whether they're scoring "empty calorie" goals or not.
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25 nov. 2022 à 18 h 29
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Think we found someone's burner account. Very random


What does that even mean? All I said was I don't like the player....
25 nov. 2022 à 18 h 31
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What does empty calorie scorer even mean? lol

I see 7 of Olofsson's 10 goals are at even strength which is pretty decent, seems a bit streaky but most goal scorers are.

Anyone who watches the Jets can easily see they lack scoring, they really need more goal scorers whether they're scoring "empty calorie" goals or not.

Olofsson has a good shot, which is nice. But he doesn't actually create any offensive chances and he's a terrible defensive player. There are so many better and cheaper options to improve the team.
25 nov. 2022 à 18 h 33
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Quoting: bikelh
Olofsson has a good shot, which is nice. But he doesn't actually create any offensive chances and he's a terrible defensive player. There are so many better and cheaper options to improve the team.


Like who?

Edit: I don't think the Jets have enough shooters, they really need some guys who can just flat out hammer the puck.
25 nov. 2022 à 18 h 41
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Like who?


So Olofsson has term left at 4.7m, and Buffalo obv would have a pretty high ask for him, which I get buy-beware from.
Jets should go two ways: mid-round pick for a rental/buy-low candidate (Dadonov, Craig Smith, Athanisou, Nyquist, a million other players like that)
Or you actually solve the Problem and swing big for a really quality player, maybe having to trade a d-man in the process: (Garland, Reinhart/Duclair, Mantha if he's available)
Olofsson is in that middle ground where he's not really good enough to be making a swing for, but also not a buy-low candidate where you only have to give up a pick for. If the Jets end up acquiring him I'm not going to mope about it, but there are other players i would prefer
re: the edit: thats obviously the case, the jets can't score right now. biggest problem. But we should target scorers who actually help the team through more than just goals.
Buffalo has been outscored with Olofsson on the ice, by significant amounts, for 3 years... That's horrible. This is a case of seeing the goals and not checking to see if its a good player, or a bad player with a good shot.
25 nov. 2022 à 19 h 9
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Quoting: bikelh

Buffalo has been outscored with Olofsson on the ice, by significant amounts, for 3 years... That's horrible. This is a case of seeing the goals and not checking to see if its a good player, or a bad player with a good shot.


Umm, basically everyone on BUF has been badly outscored over the past 3 years.

Eichel and Hall have a worse GF% than Olofsson with BUF. They must be empty calorie players too, right?

Has a lot more to do with horrible goaltending and defense than it has to do with his 5v5 game. He's improved drastically in this regard.
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25 nov. 2022 à 19 h 24
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Umm, basically everyone on BUF has been badly outscored over the past 3 years.

Eichel and Hall have a worse GF% than Olofsson with BUF. They must be empty calorie players too, right?

Has a lot more to do with horrible goaltending and defense than it has to do with his 5v5 game. He's improved drastically in this regard.


Eichel and Hall have a worse GF% than Olofsson in the past 3 years when they played for BUF. They must be empty calorie scorers too.

The fact of the matter is, Olofsson is 11th in the league in G/60 this year.

Thompson 7th 2.12
Pasta 8th 2.01
Rantanen 9th 1.98
Svechnikov 10th 1.97
Olofsson 11th 1.95

The trade package offered here is laughable.
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25 nov. 2022 à 20 h 9
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So Olofsson has term left at 4.7m, and Buffalo obv would have a pretty high ask for him, which I get buy-beware from.
Jets should go two ways: mid-round pick for a rental/buy-low candidate (Dadonov, Craig Smith, Athanisou, Nyquist, a million other players like that)
Or you actually solve the Problem and swing big for a really quality player, maybe having to trade a d-man in the process: (Garland, Reinhart/Duclair, Mantha if he's available)
Olofsson is in that middle ground where he's not really good enough to be making a swing for, but also not a buy-low candidate where you only have to give up a pick for. If the Jets end up acquiring him I'm not going to mope about it, but there are other players i would prefer
re: the edit: thats obviously the case, the jets can't score right now. biggest problem. But we should target scorers who actually help the team through more than just goals.
Buffalo has been outscored with Olofsson on the ice, by significant amounts, for 3 years... That's horrible. This is a case of seeing the goals and not checking to see if its a good player, or a bad player with a good shot.


I'd be happy to see anyone in the Jets forward group that could score a goal cause they have soooo much deadweight in a very stale group.
25 nov. 2022 à 20 h 27
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Umm, basically everyone on BUF has been badly outscored over the past 3 years.

Eichel and Hall have a worse GF% than Olofsson with BUF. They must be empty calorie players too, right?

Has a lot more to do with horrible goaltending and defense than it has to do with his 5v5 game. He's improved drastically in this regard.


Lol. No. Eichel and Hall actually outchance their opponents. Olofsson gets no actual chances and gives up a ton. He's a shot and nothing else. Which is fine, but his 5v5 play is horrible, you can't even defend that.
Comparing Olofsson to Eichel and Hall. Lol.

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Eichel and Hall have a worse GF% than Olofsson in the past 3 years when they played for BUF. They must be empty calorie scorers too.

The fact of the matter is, Olofsson is 11th in the league in G/60 this year.

Thompson 7th 2.12
Pasta 8th 2.01
Rantanen 9th 1.98
Svechnikov 10th 1.97
Olofsson 11th 1.95

The trade package offered here is laughable.





I never said the trade package was fair, its not, its way undervalued. I just don't want the player. That's all.
25 nov. 2022 à 20 h 29
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I'd be happy to see anyone in the Jets forward group that could score a goal cause they have soooo much deadweight in a very stale group.


Yea me too, we should've made a trade over the summer, but Chevy sat on his hands. Hoping for something soon, but who knows
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25 nov. 2022 à 20 h 57
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Lol. No. Eichel and Hall actually outchance their opponents. Olofsson gets no actual chances and gives up a ton. He's a shot and nothing else. Which is fine, but his 5v5 play is horrible, you can't even defend that.


He has a 49.54 CF% over the past 3 years on some really bad teams. That's not horrible. He had 29A compared to 20G last year. How is he only a shot?

Is he known for his 2-way game? Absolutely not. Is he horrible defensively? Absolutely not.

You don't want him, that's fine. I'd prefer to keep him.
26 nov. 2022 à 0 h 28
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Eichel and Hall have a worse GF% than Olofsson in the past 3 years when they played for BUF. They must be empty calorie scorers too.

The fact of the matter is, Olofsson is 11th in the league in G/60 this year.

Thompson 7th 2.12
Pasta 8th 2.01
Rantanen 9th 1.98
Svechnikov 10th 1.97
Olofsson 11th 1.95

The trade package offered here is laughable.


And after scoring tonight (and not being on the ice for a GA against against NJ, even though his defense is horrible), he's moved up to 7th in G/60, right behind McDavid.

And, if you remove Vrana and Myers who have only played 23 minutes each, he's 5th in the league in G/60.
 
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