Beetuzzi has no value to San Jose unless he comes with some extension

This is probably the last thing DET should be doing. They should be keeping those picks and young players and waiting for their moment to peak. EK65 age and contract do sync with Detroits compete window

Detroit still declines

I mean it is one of the better Karlsson trades i've seen, If Bertuzzi is extended its totally worth it for San Jose but then I dont see detroit doing it. No point in rushing the Yzerplan for someone who could be out long term next week.

Never going to happen. Karlsson at 32 with a $11.5M cap hit doesn't bring in anything close to that return.

As stated in the post before. Not even close and must be a real joke because you posted it twice.

EK will not play 55 games this year and will be out note than in.

Secondly he is 32 is signed for 5 more years and eats a huge portion of cap.

Why not try trading MEV, oh wait an even worse contract.

10 million for 4 more years, no team is going to pay for EK

Not trying to be a dick
But didnt Burns just out play Karlsson their entire SJS time together and get a lesser return based on his contract?(which was way lower)
SJS had to retain 1.5/8m of his deal just to get his 3 years of Team unloaded

While its true Karlsson's amazing start with 19 points in 14 games is great it just brings teams back to the table.
Otherwise Retaining Salary and giving up a Prospect for a AHL Call Up,a Prospects and a conditional 3rd round pick for Burns would make any deal on this site sound ignorant when asking for it for Karlsson.

The reality is while no teams were at the table on Karlsson before this deal without SJS RS of at least 40% of his Contract.
There's atleast 2-3 teams like OTT or DET who see a huge hole in their RD and have to make moves so the losing can stop and the Winning can begin.
Karlsson hasnt played a Full Season since leaving Ottawa nore has he reached similar Norris Trophy numbers so you cannot argue he has the same or similar value either so dreams of a deal this big cant be reasonably argued especially after attaching that contract and term.(that wont be rewarded , hasnt yet in NHL history even Eichel had to take far more Quantity and less Quality then he normal would have)

IF Karlsson were to somehow yield most of what you're asking its only with 40-50% RS over 5 years allowing his new team the chance to RS and flip him later on to re-coop loss's.
Otherwise its a non starter without a Brendan Gallagher like Contract coming back .
Atleast as far as the NHL and Recorded History is concerned as i can name many examples of why this doesnt work for every 1 example you can of it working.
Its why i include all known examples of it working to cut the legs out from under your point by using the same facts to lend credibility to mine.
But do feel free to try and prove me wrong , ill use your point in my next arguement to further enforce these statements of fact

Honestly you changed my mind once you mentioned Burns.

Yeah i went overkill
On this site if you dont include a ton of info or atleast 1 really good point its a losing battle.
I should have realized Burns alone was good enough point by itself despite Karlsson currently out producing him(my point of paranoia)

Yeah I didn't really take into account the fact that hardly any team has the cap space to bring him in, then once you go through those teams even less have the assets and players to trade for him, then even less may be interested and then you have to look for if he would be willing to go to those teams. So realistically there may only be 1-2 teams that San Jose could trade him too. Thats probably what happened with the Burns trade and was why they barely got anything for him even though they retained 1/3.

san jose would have to eat like 5 mil of that and throw in a first . he is playing great but will never last