The shake up

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Créé par: rgwhite17

Équipe: 2022-23 Maple Leafs de Toronto

Date de création initiale: 29 oct. 2022

Publié: 29 oct. 2022

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

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Trying to not be too dramatic but if this team gets to a point a shakeup is needed is it the coach or trade a piece of the core?
Was never a big fan of trading the younger nylander for Kane but it would be a shake up.
I would think nylander has more trade value than Kane cause of age and contract. Chicago could flip him later for a lot, auction him off to the contenders at a retained salary.
So leafs should include a first and try to get Murphy is this deal as well.

With this move also considering it should help matthews resign if we can resign Kane as well. You can play Kane with matthews, Marner back with JT.

Easily fits cap wise with Murray back. Would be over by a bit with muzzin back as well but realistically the whole roster won’t be healthy at the same time anyways. I don’t believe they expect muzzin back anytime soon. Could look for double retention on Kane for more flexibility.

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TOR

Kane, Patrick (5 250 000 $ retained)
Murphy, Connor

CHI

Engvall, Pierre
Holl, Justin
Nylander, William
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (TOR)

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Engvall and holl could be traded elsewhere but I don’t think Chicago would really care about 2 expiring contracts

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
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2025

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TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	82 500 000 $	72 718 047 $	212 500 $	0 $	9 781 953 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Bunting, Michael 950 000 $950 000 $ AG UFA - 1	Matthews, Auston 11 640 250 $11 640 250 $ C UFA - 2	Kane, Patrick -2 625 000 $-2 625 000 $ AD NMC UFA - 1
Robertson, Nicholas 796 667 $796 667 $ AG, AD RFA - 2	Tavares, John 11 000 000 $11 000 000 $ C, AG NMC UFA - 3	Marner, Mitchell 10 903 000 $10 903 000 $ AD UFA - 3
Järnkrok, Calle 2 100 000 $2 100 000 $ AD, C, AG M-NTC UFA - 4	Kerfoot, Alexander 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ AG, C, AD M-NTC UFA - 1	Malgin, Denis 750 000 $750 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1
Aston-Reese, Zach 840 630 $840 630 $ AG, AD UFA - 1		Aubé-Kubel, Nicolas 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ AD UFA - 1
	Kämpf, David 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ C UFA - 1	Simmonds, Wayne 900 000 $900 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Rielly, Morgan 7 500 000 $7 500 000 $ DG NMC UFA - 8	Murphy, Connor 4 400 000 $4 400 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 4	Samsonov, Ilya 1 800 000 $1 800 000 $ G UFA - 1
Sandin, Rasmus 1 400 000 $1 400 000 $ DG UFA - 2	Brodie, TJ 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ DG/DD NTC UFA - 2
Giordano, Mark 800 000 $800 000 $ DG UFA - 2	Liljegren, Timothy 1 400 000 $1 400 000 $ DD RFA - 2	Murray, Matt 4 687 500 $4 687 500 $ G M-NTC UFA - 2
Benn, Jordie 750 000 $750 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1	Mete, Victor 750 000 $750 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
	Clifford, Kyle 762 500 $762 500 $ AG UFA - 2	Muzzin, Jake 5 625 000 $5 625 000 $ DG NTC UFA - 2

29 oct. 2022 à 8 h 42

littlejerryseinfeld

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You aren't getting both Kane 50% retained and Murphy on a 4 year deal for that.

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29 oct. 2022 à 8 h 52

finny690

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I would love to see something like this. Logically I think the Leafs would have to sweeten this offer but, I don't know with Chicago

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29 oct. 2022 à 8 h 53

Garak

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CHI declines. It's not an awful offer, and could probably get negotiations going. But, if it isn't obvious by now, CHI wants picks and prospects/young players (under 23-24). Holl and Engvall add very little value, if any, to the trade. They are involved simply to create cap space for TOR. Nylander and a 1st doesn't get you you Kane 50% retained AND Murphy. Past injury issues aside, good RHD are like gold in this league, and he is on a very manageable contract with term.

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29 oct. 2022 à 8 h 58

Trevorchef

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I don't hate this but, I don't think that Chicago would do that. It really does not seem like enough with a retention like that and a top four D leaving.

Probably any deal for both of those guys would be centered around young promising prospects and very high picks coming back.

Just my two cents.

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29 oct. 2022 à 9 h 23

jaok3

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Why do people think the leafs need another small forward that is a perimeter player? They need a guy that can get the puck and get to the net.

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29 oct. 2022 à 9 h 43

rgwhite17

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Quoting: Garak

My thoughts with the nylander return for Chicago is they will most likely not get a better return than him since Kane will probably only waive for a couple teams.
Chicago should bring in nylander knowing they will retain on him and move him to a contender before the deadline. Nylander at 3.5 for 2 playoff runs? He can go to the highest bidder.
Ya it might not be enough considering the retention and Murphy but I think there’s a path to a deal

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29 oct. 2022 à 9 h 45

Brad_Treliving

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Quoting: jaok3

Why do people think the leafs need another small forward that is a perimeter player? They need a guy that can get the puck and get to the net.

It's the way the Leafs are built, bring in Tom Wilson, and I guarantee the Leafs would make him play like William Nylander

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29 oct. 2022 à 9 h 46

rgwhite17

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Quoting: Trevorchef

Would you agree nylander has more trade value than Kane? Maybe it’s even with the retention. So then it’s just adding more to the first for Murphy. I think it’s doable.
Again this is if it’s clear a shake up is needed and I would want this trade completed before Christmas so Kane and Murphy have lots of time to fit in

29 oct. 2022 à 9 h 54

Garak

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Quoting: rgwhite17

Agreed. That's why I said it could get negotiations going. But, the deal isn't enough as it currently stands. That could probably get Kane alone, though. But it would most likely be with the intention of flipping Nylander. He is right on the line of being a player I could see being a long term piece and not, but I tend to lean toward flipping him in most hypothetical situations.

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