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Toews

Créé par: mart
Équipe: 2022-23 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 27 oct. 2022
Publié: 27 oct. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
CHI
  1. Gambrell, Dylan
  2. Zaitsev, Nikita
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (WSH)
  4. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (OTT)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2082 500 000 $73 969 048 $0 $4 025 000 $8 530 952 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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8 205 714 $8 205 714 $
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
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4 975 000 $4 975 000 $
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6 400 000 $6 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance600 000 $$600K)
C
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, C
NMC
UFA - 3
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1 350 000 $1 350 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
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NMC
UFA - 1
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
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UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
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821 667 $821 667 $
C, AD
RFA - 1
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2 950 000 $2 950 000 $
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UFA - 4
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 6
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
G
UFA - 3
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance925 000 $$925K)
DG
UFA - 2
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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3 666 667 $3 666 667 $
G
UFA - 1
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1 300 000 $1 300 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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900 000 $900 000 $
DG/DD, AG
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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7 950 000 $7 950 000 $
C
UFA - 8
Équipe de réserve
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762 500 $762 500 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
AG
RFA - 2
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750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
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UFA - 1

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27 oct. 2022 à 16 h 47
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I think Chicago says no to that offer without taking back Zaitsev or retaining on Toews.
27 oct. 2022 à 16 h 48
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Interesting trade! Maybe instead of Gambrell you do Formenton and that 4th is also a 2nd?


Toews for Zaitzev, 2nd 2023, 2nd 2024, Formenton.

I like it!
mart a aimé ceci.
27 oct. 2022 à 16 h 49
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I think Chicago says no to that offer without taking back Zaitsev or retaining on Toews.


I didn't retain salary on Toews so they could get picks from the cap space at the Deadline.
27 oct. 2022 à 16 h 50
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I didn't retain salary on Toews so they could get picks from the cap space at the Deadline.


I mean instead of taking Zaitsev. It’s not a fair offer bro. Go back to the drawing board
27 oct. 2022 à 16 h 52
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Interesting trade! Maybe instead of Gambrell you do Formenton and that 4th is also a 2nd?


Toews for Zaitzev, 2nd 2023, 2nd 2024, Formenton.

I like it!


Formenton is a question and gambrell is young and could be a 4c. Toews is a rental too since we have no money next year.
27 oct. 2022 à 16 h 54
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Formenton is a question and gambrell is young and could be a 4c. Toews is a rental too since we have no money next year.


Yea I know Toews is a rental. I just think your offer is a bit weak considering Zaitsev is going back the other way. It would take all of that to dump Zaitsev.

I think the offer I proposed would be better for both teams. Unless Chicago really didn't want to deal with the potential negative of Formenton. In which case make it a prospect who has higher potential upside than Gambrell.
27 oct. 2022 à 17 h 0
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Yea I know Toews is a rental. I just think your offer is a bit weak considering Zaitsev is going back the other way. It would take all of that to dump Zaitsev.

I think the offer I proposed would be better for both teams. Unless Chicago really didn't want to deal with the potential negative of Formenton. In which case make it a prospect who has higher potential upside than Gambrell.


Quoting: TMLBRIAN
Yea I know Toews is a rental. I just think your offer is a bit weak considering Zaitsev is going back the other way. It would take all of that to dump Zaitsev.

I think the offer I proposed would be better for both teams. Unless Chicago really didn't want to deal with the potential negative of Formenton. In which case make it a prospect who has higher potential upside than Gambrell.


That's far I was trying to promote gambrell as not a throw in but he is Maybe a 2024 2nd and 2023 2nd for our 3rd back with a prospect of Daoust, guenette or reinhart.
27 oct. 2022 à 17 h 16
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I mean instead of taking Zaitsev. It’s not a fair offer bro. Go back to the drawing board


Why are the Blackhawks makeing the playoffs in the next 5 years of their tire fire.
27 oct. 2022 à 17 h 18
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I doubt the Hawks accept anything close to this really. Zaitsev still owed $6.5M and Toews owed $2.9M. They'll retain before taking on Zaitsev. Let's put it this way. Dickenson cost a 2nd round pick and he's ~$2M less than Zaitsev. And Dickenson's actually been pretty good for the Hawks. Just mismanaged in VAN. It'll likely cost a late 1st (potentially early 2nd) just to shed Zaitsev.
27 oct. 2022 à 17 h 20
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Why are the Blackhawks makeing the playoffs in the next 5 years of their tire fire.


They can get a better return for him elsewhere….
27 oct. 2022 à 17 h 38
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I kind of like the move for Ottawa, especially if they make the playoffs. I don't think the value is right, but I don't think it's horrible.

I think the problem is that Zaitsev has negative 1st round pick value. He has a horrible contract (and I cannot remember who gave it to him for some reason...) for what he can produce.

The trade is probably far closer in value by just removing him. But even then, the Hawks can afford to retain so I think they might do a bit better sending him somewhere else with retention.
27 oct. 2022 à 19 h 0
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I wonder why CHI would do that. Zaitsev is just dreadful, Gambrell is a fourth liner and those picks aren't even enough to dump Zaitsev in terms of value.
 
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