The best the Leafs would offer for schenn is a third... Not one of our top prospects.

Schenn gets you a 5th from the leafs, a 3rd from a gm who values hitzzz over actual ability to play.

With all due respect, Schenn is a highly capable dman and worth a 3rd easily

Not to a team that doesnt need bottom pairing defenders

Fair

we know Dallas isnt retaining that much for that long.

Also, what benefit down SJ get here? They get another aging defender signed too long and a bad RHD while retaining on Karlsson and giving up a 2nd?

can we get some trades not obviously slanted a lot in Vancouver's favor?

The Canucks have proven without a doubt that Schenn is not capable. He's a 7/8 defenceman.

So SJ retains on a decent, overpaid defenseman for a bad, overpaid defenseman and also gives up a 2nd? No way, EKL won’t even be that much cheaper with that retention.

Easiest no from San Jose ever. Sh*t trade really

Stars aren’t retaining half on guys with that much term remaining. Segs has 5 points in 4 games and looks healthy for the first time in a while. There’s also this thing called the salary cap. I’ll stop there cuz the other two trades are worse and I’m sure you’ll be hearing it plenty from others