What if Meier pulls a Skinner after securing the bag?

1. Not really sure what that means.
2. Would be very hard for Meier not to contribute on a stacked BUF team.

That being said, Olofsson and Meier are nearly equal. Not sure why 4 more talented pieces are being added here.

What if Meier pulls a Skinner after securing the bag?

Olofsson and meier are not remotely equal. On my god

Past Since 2019:

Olofsson: 185GP 55G 70A
Meier: 206GP 69G 88A

Over 82G:
Olofsson 24.4G 31A
Meier 27.5G 35A

3 more goals and 4 more assists per season, and most fans think Olofsson has 30-40G potential...

That's certain remotely close and I would not be giving up 4 more picks for a player that would be costing $2.75mm more per year, or nearly $393,000 more per point.

No, it isnt.

Also, Olofsson and mittelstadt will both be on expiring deals (and mittelstadt hasnt been good), portillo isn't going to sign. Its a collection of stuff for a premier player.

Numbered stats arent everything, especially when you are factoring in power play points.

Your numbers are also wrong.

Last 3 seasons, Meier 82 game pace: 28/37/65 (.79 ppg) https://frozenpool.dobbersports.com/players/timo-meier
Last 3 seasons, Olofsson 82 game pace: 22/30/52 (.63 ppg) https://frozenpool.dobbersports.com/players/victor-olofsson

No, it isnt.

Also, Olofsson and mittelstadt will both be on expiring deals (and mittelstadt hasnt been good), portillo isn't going to sign. Its a collection of stuff for a premier player.

Numbered stats arent everything, especially when you are factoring in power play points.

Your numbers are also wrong.

Last 3 seasons, Meier 82 game pace: 28/37/65 (.79 ppg) https://frozenpool.dobbersports.com/players/timo-meier
Last 3 seasons, Olofsson 82 game pace: 22/30/52 (.63 ppg) https://frozenpool.dobbersports.com/players/victor-olofsson

Shall we look at pts/60?

Olofsson 125/3120 = 2.4
Meier 157/3647 = 2.58

Very, very remotely close. It would be a total of an 11-point difference since 2019-2020...and most Sabres fans would say that Olofsson was certainly hurting a lot last year and not putting up the points he normally does.

I like that you are using this year so you can say olofsson is on a 54 goal pace when he has 2 empty net goals and has done nothing else.

Everyone, including 99.99% of Sabres fans (which i am one) know meier is a significantly better player.

1. Not really sure what that means.
2. Would be very hard for Meier not to contribute on a stacked BUF team.

That being said, Olofsson and Meier are nearly equal. Not sure why 4 more talented pieces are being added here.

2018-19 season was a contract year for Skinner, he got a career-high 63 points in 82 games, and then got a 72m contract (9mx8). Last season is the 1st season where he matched that points total but in 2 less games. He's now in the 4th season of his contract, and so far 2/3rds of what he played was underwhelming.

2018-19 season was also a contract year for Meier. He got a career-high 66 points in 78 games, he got a 24m bridge deal (6mx4). Last season is the 1st season where he at least matched his previous career-high, with 76 points in 77 games setting a new career-high. He's now in a contract year again.

So, what I was saying was what if after having another good season, getting traded for that massive package and signing for 7.5mx7, Meier has a similar experience as Skinner? Would be super embarrassing for Adams if Oloffson matches or surpasses Meier in production at that point. Not saying that Meier won't contribute, just that it might not be as expected.

Adams would never do that ridiculous package.

Olofsson + 2nd <> Meier is probably fair. Throw in Portillo if that's what it takes, but a 1st and a top-6 player on top of that? No way.

If this trade is happening next year, where Meier is going to be in a similar contract situation as DeBrincat, Adams shouldn't be offering a whole ton more than what Ottawa did. 2023 1st + Mittelstadt (who seems to be nothing special but is still a former 1st) + a 2nd should be the most they offer (more if the pick is a late pick). Otherwise, they are just better off pursuing a free agent like Kane.



For cap/roster space, giving Olofsson+ also makes sense. I think SJ would want that 2023 1st though especially if it's 11th-15th overall.

Olofsson + 2nd <> Meier is probably fair. Throw in Portillo if that's what it takes, but a 1st and a top-6 player on top of that? No way.

SJ would want the 1st and 2nd and Portillo and Mitts. What does BUF get? A few more points and some toughness and a lesser PP?

But, please tell me how Meier is significantly better...especially 4 more players and $2.75mm per year better...