If Kane ends up a Rangers, I'm willing to bet Kaapo is included unless he breaks out this season.

Big overpay by Rangers, plus, got to love splitting up Kreider and Mika, which has as much chance happening as this trade.

i think that kakko is starting to break out so rangers dont part way with him. i think krav is more likely to be traded along with picks and maybe robertson who likely wont be able to play due to our d depth.

Overpay by the Rangers.

i think that if gallant sees the kids flourish, he will split kreids and mika.

honestly not too bad considering its patrick kane with retention

I don't see the Rangers parting ways with both 2023 picks though. Kravtsov would have to have a good season attached to one of the firsts for that to land Kane...which is entirely possible.

The inclusion of the 2nd first round pick is where you are off. Krav, Blais and a 1st is sufficient especially if Kane only lists 3 teams he is willing to go to.

Let them keep KK. It's not that I dislike him It's just easier from the NYR perspective to give both 1sts knowing their TOP prospects aren't going anywhere

fair point. I think chicago will be a tough bargain but if they can do it for krav, blais, and a 1st or even throw in someone like robertson, i would do it

very true and i see what youre saying

I mean PIT is a very realistic place for him to land and there are certainly PIT fans willing to part with two 1sts. Also, Owen Tippett is worth a lot more than Kravstov...unless Kravtsov is north of a PPG AHLer at time of trade. Being a healthy scratch in the NHL is worse than getting minutes in the AHL. Understood you cant waive him...just pointing out that his value is diminishing every game he doesn't play.

Think AA or Domi For the 3rd line is the answer

So far, he has looked incredible. 2G in 4GP, he is impossible to get off the puck, and as usual his adv. stats are insane. So I don't see him going anywhere. Unfortunately, had CHI wanted more for Kane they would have traded him last deadline (same with Toews). CHI has effectively 0 leverage in this situation since if a team doesn't get him for the playoffs they will just get him next season (UFA in the offeseason).

hes injured not scratched.

Tippett and Kravtsov are very similar, both NHL-ready prospects. By the TDL, Kravstov's experience should be close. He has been out with a UBI, not a healthy scratch.

Regarding KK, it will be interesting to see how he does come December January. I agree they won't move him if he continues playing that way.

That's totally untrue about Chicago having zero leverage or Chicago moving him last season. A) Kane wouldn't agree to get traded last season and Chicago will put zero pressure on him. B) Kane, if he agrees to a trade, is likely going to submit at least 2 and more likely 3 teams as he has no interest in cornering Chicago per the reports and given their good relationship. C) Thus he becomes the top TDL acquisition in recent memory and every team going into the playoffs that can work his prorated cap hit (minus 50% retention) will want him, so if it's 3 teams or even 2, it's a bidding war. D) Any playoff team would love to have him for a cup run versus waiting till the offseason where is suspected Kane may want to return to Chicago to continue his entire career there. E) Ultimately it is up to Chicago whether they trade him and whether they accept an offer or not.

You have to remember that Kane is treated like gold by the Hawks and the City of Chicago. The relationship is bi-directional. Kane has said multiple times he wants to work in the front office for Chicago post playing days. There has been and will be no sour grapes involved in their discussions; they will make decisions together on the approach, but if he's moving, it's not a 1 team destination and thus the Hawks have leverage.

Kravtsov and Tippett are on very similar trajectories but neither have put it all together yet. I'm sure half the teams would pick one over the other and vice versa. Supposedly Kane's top 3 destinations are Edmonton, NY and Washington but wouldnt be surprised if Buffalo was in the conversation if they are in a wild card battle.

Agree. Kane will only waive if it makes sense for him and the team. He has been very open about everything and will be doing the right thing by him and the team because of the mutual respect each has for the other. He loves being a Hawk and the Hawks love having him.

Fair point of the UBI. Disagree about equal to Tippett. The irony is that before the highway Robbery (kudos to Drury) it was Lundqvist and the NYR 1st for Kaner with Hawks fans saying pass and now it's almost repulsive to suggest two 1sts.

Point remains on Kravstov though. He needs to play....and be good

As was mentioned in another post, it is not clear one way or the other who is preferred by a particular team. I also read Tippett is on the outs with Torts, although that happens with Torts. Kravtsov skillset fits well with what the Rangers need, and I would not trade him straight-up for Tippett. They are not looking to move him to just do it. His name comes up a lot because he is still at a prospect level and about the only top 6 caliber player that they would move on the roster. If he does play good like you said, it could get harder to move him as well as he is cost-controlled. Still waiting for Tippett to play to his potential.

Entitled to your opinion, but totally disagree. He will keep Laffy and Kakko at RW on top 2 lines IMO.

LeBrun is reporting the NYR and NYI are the leaders for Kane.

Hawks do not need to trade him, but also no other team needs to trade for him. If Kane wants a 4th ring, and be cemented as the greatest American to ever play the game then he will go to another team (contender) in the offseason.

and IF that happens, Kane won't limit himself to one team and thus, teams will compete for him, Chicago has negotiating leverage as such.

Kane will go down as the best American to ever play the game regardless, he's arguably there or at worse, almost there.