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Paying for better depth

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Équipe: 2022-23 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 6 oct. 2022
Publié: 6 oct. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
LAK
  1. Puljujärvi, Jesse
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
2.
EDM
  1. Severson, Damon (2 000 000 $ retained)
  2. Sharangovich, Yegor
NJD
  1. Barrie, Tyson
  2. Bourgault, Xavier
  3. Foegele, Warren
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
3.
ARI
  1. Kulak, Brett
  2. Samorukov, Dmitri
  3. Schaefer, Reid
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (EDM)
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2024
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2025
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
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NMC
UFA - 6
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12 500 000 $12 500 000 $
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NMC
UFA - 4
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5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 4
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
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8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
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1 875 000 $1 875 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
AG, C
NMC
UFA - 7
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
AG, C
RFA - 2
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3 100 000 $3 100 000 $
AD
RFA - 2
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1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
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798 000 $798 000 $
C
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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4 600 000 $4 600 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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9 250 000 $9 250 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 8
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2 166 666 $2 166 666 $
DD
UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DG
RFA - 2
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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750 000 $750 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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2 200 000 $2 200 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
925 000 $925 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
4 167 000 $4 167 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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850 000 $850 000 $
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UFA - 1

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6 oct. 2022 à 6 h 59
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I doubt any of those 3 proposals are accepted. Nothing of real value is going to NJ, with most of the trade value being neutralized by the Foegele and Barrie cap dumps. And you are still at least 1 good piece away for Chychrun. I doubt that LA wants to move Moore.
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6 oct. 2022 à 7 h 7
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I doubt any of those 3 proposals are accepted. Nothing of real value is going to NJ, with most of the trade value being neutralized by the Foegele and Barrie cap dumps. And you are still at least 1 good piece away for Chychrun. I doubt that LA wants to move Moore.


Ummm all three of those trades are heavily favoring the other teams. Zero chance Holland entertains any.
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6 oct. 2022 à 7 h 22
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yeah no sharangovich won’t be traded call about sevo at the deadline
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6 oct. 2022 à 8 h 51
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Ummm all three of those trades are heavily favoring the other teams. Zero chance Holland entertains any.


What are ya talking about? Very clear that every team not name the oilers declines and they decline very easily
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6 oct. 2022 à 9 h 28
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What are ya talking about? Very clear that every team not name the oilers declines and they decline very easily


Well those teams wouldn't be given the chance to decline because Holland wouldn't consider offering these packages.
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6 oct. 2022 à 9 h 46
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Well those teams wouldn't be given the chance to decline because Holland wouldn't consider offering these packages.


Please start watching other teams play before you think every oiler is the best player to ever play hockey
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6 oct. 2022 à 9 h 48
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7 players out - 4 in = worse depth.
6 oct. 2022 à 11 h 34
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Quoting: Erkadurk347
Please start watching other teams play before you think every oiler is the best player to ever play hockey


Well some of them are which is why Edmonton made it to final four and 2 of these teams didn't make playoffs and one that did was eliminated by Edmonton. Think it's fair to suggest Edmonton has better players.
Which of these three trades do you need help figuring out why it's a massive overpay?
4th overall pick who's consistently proven to make his line mates better including McDavid.
Or the devils trade that is including two first round picks for at best a very marginal upgrade maybe.
Or the 3 first round picks for chychrun who can't stay healthy...
6 oct. 2022 à 11 h 46
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Quoting: Timmah007
Well some of them are which is why Edmonton made it to final four and 2 of these teams didn't make playoffs and one that did was eliminated by Edmonton. Think it's fair to suggest Edmonton has better players.
Which of these three trades do you need help figuring out why it's a massive overpay?
4th overall pick who's consistently proven to make his line mates better including McDavid.
Or the devils trade that is including two first round picks for at best a very marginal upgrade maybe.
Or the 3 first round picks for chychrun who can't stay healthy...


First trade doesn't make a ton of sense, and I agree with you on the 3rd being an overpay for Chych, but that Devils trade is a huge overpay from NJ for what they're getting back:

Severson put up better offensive numbers than Barrie last year (11-35-46 in 80 GP vs. 7-34-41 in 73 GP) while also rating as an above-average defender - in a vacuum, he's better than Barrie, and with the Devils retaining him down to $2.166M here, he's a MUCH more valuable player than Barrie and his $4.5M cap hit. I'd argue a late 1st rounder is fair value to help eat the cap and upgrade your RD depth chart by that much.

When you add in that the Devils are *also* sending 24-goal-scoring Yegor Sharangovich (24 years old, 1x$2M with RFA rights next summer) and only getting back Warren Foegele (basically half the offensive production, 2 years older, and a higher cap hit), I think adding a strong prospect like Bourgault is the *least* they can do.

Frankly, I don't think the Devils pick up the phone on that offer. They can most likely get a 1st & a decent prospect for Severson retained fully at the deadline, and they can get a pretty good package for Sharangovich if they wanted to as well, and they wouldn't have to eat two mediocre contracts they don't need to get those assets.
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6 oct. 2022 à 11 h 55
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Quoting: dannibalcorpse
First trade doesn't make a ton of sense, and I agree with you on the 3rd being an overpay for Chych, but that Devils trade is a huge overpay from NJ for what they're getting back:

Severson put up better offensive numbers than Barrie last year (11-35-46 in 80 GP vs. 7-34-41 in 73 GP) while also rating as an above-average defender - in a vacuum, he's better than Barrie, and with the Devils retaining him down to $2.166M here, he's a MUCH more valuable player than Barrie and his $4.5M cap hit. I'd argue a late 1st rounder is fair value to help eat the cap and upgrade your RD depth chart by that much.

When you add in that the Devils are *also* sending 24-goal-scoring Yegor Sharangovich (24 years old, 1x$2M with RFA rights next summer) and only getting back Warren Foegele (basically half the offensive production, 2 years older, and a higher cap hit), I think adding a strong prospect like Bourgault is the *least* they can do.

Frankly, I don't think the Devils pick up the phone on that offer. They can most likely get a 1st & a decent prospect for Severson retained fully at the deadline, and they can get a pretty good package for Sharangovich if they wanted to as well, and they wouldn't have to eat two mediocre contracts they don't need to get those assets.


Well then jersey is more than welcome to talk to other teams there is no realistic chance Holland will move bourgault given the depth have on right shot forwards that's biggest reason why Holland hasn't move Jesse using him to bridge the gap for bourgualt.
6 oct. 2022 à 13 h 6
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Quoting: Timmah007
Well some of them are which is why Edmonton made it to final four and 2 of these teams didn't make playoffs and one that did was eliminated by Edmonton. Think it's fair to suggest Edmonton has better players.
Which of these three trades do you need help figuring out why it's a massive overpay?
4th overall pick who's consistently proven to make his line mates better including McDavid.
Or the devils trade that is including two first round picks for at best a very marginal upgrade maybe.
Or the 3 first round picks for chychrun who can't stay healthy...


There are multiple trade proposals.All of the proposals are bad and would get declined by every team. Relax and leave the website if you think every single player on the oilers is god
6 oct. 2022 à 13 h 50
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Quoting: Erkadurk347
There are multiple trade proposals.All of the proposals are bad and would get declined by every team. Relax and leave the website if you think every single player on the oilers is god


Ummm I'm not sure I should be the one told to relax.... Never did I claim everyone on the oilers is a God even tho two of them kinda are God like in a hockey perspective. I did point out why each of these deals is a huge stretch of the imagination to think Holland would even look at.
Guess IL point out flaws in a different way because there is many how about when was the last time Holland moved completely outside the first round? Doing it 3 times here in two separate trades. Holland has shown unwillingness to move broberg so its not at all a stretch to think Holloway Bourgualt (who is in the Devils trade) Schaefer are also off-limits especially Bourgualt who is the only right shot prospect with promise on a roster low of right shot guys. Is Holland about to treat Barrie as if he was a cap dump after he signed two contracts with Edmonton both well bellow market value... That's not to mention he's the most experienced d on the roster something Holland has shown great value in Hence why he traded for Keith...
 
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