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Gauging Value

Créé par: PHILLYSZN
Équipe: 2022-23 Flyers de Philadelphie
Date de création initiale: 19 sept. 2022
Publié: 19 sept. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
The Flyers are a mess. If I took over as GM right now, I would want to gauge the value on just about every single player on the roster. So what I’ve done is given my personal benchmark value for each player.

Comment below any counter offers, and make sure to be honest about whether the return for a player is too high or too low.
Transactions
1.
PHI
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (MIN)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (MIN)
MIN
  1. van Riemsdyk, James (3 500 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Assuming JVR reaches the 20-goal mark yet again. Deadline at 50% retained.
2.
PHI
  1. Kuhlman, Karson
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (WPG)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (SEA)
3.
PHI
  1. Kupari, Rasmus
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (LAK)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (LAK)
4.
PHI
  1. Roulette, Conner [Liste de réserve]
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (DAL)
DAL
  1. Hayes, Kevin (2 392 857 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
If a young star like Bedard/Fantilli is drafted and signed to a 3-year ELC, that allows an exact window to retain $2.4M of Hayes until both his contract and the star’s ELC would expire. Dallas gets Hayes at $4.75M.
5.
EDM
  1. Laughton, Scott
Détails additionnels:
Edmonton gets a grittier player that brings a playoff presence and can play center or wing. On a deep Oiler team, Laughton should improve on his 30-point 2021-22 season.
6.
PHI
  1. Mikkola, Niko
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (STL)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (STL)
STL
  1. Sanheim, Travis (2 337 500 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Deadline at 50% retained. Assuming Sanheim extends with STL.
7.
PHI
  1. Wahlstrom, Oliver
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NYI)
8.
9.
PHI
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (ANA)
10.
PHI
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (MTL)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (MTL)
11.
PHI
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (TBL)
TBL
  1. Braun, Justin (500 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Deadline at 50% retained. Ridiculously cheap depth option for any contender.
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2023
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Logo de LAK
Logo de STL
Logo de NYI
Logo de WPG
Logo de FLA
Logo de NYR
Logo de SEA
Logo de MTL
Logo de TBL
Logo de PHI
Logo de EDM
Logo de PHI
Logo de MIN
Logo de ANA
Logo de PHI
Logo de PHI
2024
Logo de PHI
Logo de FLA
Logo de DAL
Logo de STL
Logo de PHI
Logo de MIN
Logo de LAK
Logo de MTL
Logo de PHI
Logo de PHI
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2025
Logo de PHI
Logo de PHI
Logo de PHI
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2082 205 000 $52 793 107 $295 000 $3 100 000 $29 411 893 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 6
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
7 750 000 $7 750 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 8
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
C, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
800 000 $800 000 $
C
RFA - 1
Logo de Islanders de New York
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance537 500 $$538K)
AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance350 000 $$350K)
C, AG, AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Kraken de Seattle
825 000 $825 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
925 000 $925 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
750 000 $750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
AD
RFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance725 000 $$725K)
DG/DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 5
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
3 979 000 $3 979 000 $
G
RFA - 2
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
1 900 000 $1 900 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
775 000 $775 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
775 000 $775 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
883 750 $883 750 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
RFA - 1

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19 sept. 2022 à 12 h 39
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Your value on DesLauriers is right.

I think that your value* on Konecny is in the ballpark, but now that the Kings have landed Kevin Fiala, Los Angeles isn't a likely destination for him anymore -- when Viktor Arvidsson ages out, the Kings envision Arthur Kaliyev taking his place. *An A prospect (probably a forward) plus a first, but inasmuch as Kupari is one of only two right-handed forwards on the Kings, I don't see him specifically being part of a Konecny trade.

Cap considerations aside, the Kings would give up a similar package to the one you have here for Ivan Provorov. Under current conditions, you'd have to take Alex Iafallo back to make the Los Angeles roster cap-compliant.

None of these proposals looks out of line to me. Nice job.
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19 sept. 2022 à 12 h 54
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You aren't close on the Edmonton deal. The only reason to move Puljujarvi is for cap purposes, and this isn't that. Puljujarvi has 10x the upside that Laughton has and the Oilers are already loaded with C/L players who are better than Laughton. There's no reason for them to entertain this idea.
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19 sept. 2022 à 13 h 6
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No thanks from LA. We don't have the cap, even if we wanted to send a 1st and Kupari (which I don't).
19 sept. 2022 à 13 h 12
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You aren't close on the Edmonton deal. The only reason to move Puljujarvi is for cap purposes, and this isn't that. Puljujarvi has 10x the upside that Laughton has and the Oilers are already loaded with C/L players who are better than Laughton. There's no reason for them to entertain this idea.


Gotcha. You have any counter for a Laughton return?
19 sept. 2022 à 13 h 41
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Regardless of trade values, the number of retained players in trades is 1 too many so you got pick one out of the lot and you're way under the minimum salary cap too so none of this works if the goal was to remain realistic.
19 sept. 2022 à 14 h 28
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Gotcha. You have any counter for a Laughton return?


No, I don't think Edmonton would be interested in him.
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19 sept. 2022 à 14 h 40
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I think Hayes has value at 4.75, lots of people underrate him because of the contract but he is a very solid 2C, just overpaid.
Atkinson maybe gets a bit less because his deal is a lot to take on
Otherwise these look pretty solid to me
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19 sept. 2022 à 15 h 6
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Regardless of trade values, the number of retained players in trades is 1 too many so you got pick one out of the lot and you're way under the minimum salary cap too so none of this works if the goal was to remain realistic.

This isn’t a normal Armchair GM. This is just laying out value/returns for each individual player. Obviously if it was legit you wouldn’t trade every single one of these players and you would also likely package some together. Plus like you said, can only retain on three at a time.
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19 sept. 2022 à 15 h 29
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I'll give you that trade value of a 3rd n 5th for deslauriers 50% but ill be the only fan who says that. I'm a huge fan of him
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19 sept. 2022 à 16 h 10
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Minnesota declines. We don't have room and cap
 
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