A Realistic Patrick Kane Trade

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Créé par: nolannichol

Équipe: 2022-23 Maple Leafs de Toronto

Date de création initiale: 28 août 2022

Publié: 28 août 2022

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Please ignore the cap space, a third team would need to be involved in order to make this deal work, however, I don't believe CapFriendly has an option to make a three-way trade. Ideally, Chicago would retain 50% ($5,250,000) before shipping Kane off to another team who would then retain 50% of that already retained cap ($2,625,000). Leafs would likely need to give this third team a first or second-round pick and possibly a prospect. Anyways, after all this, Kane's cap hit for the Leafs would be just $2,625,000, only owing Kane 25% of that original $10,500,000 contract.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Sandin, Rasmus		1	1 500 000 $

Transactions

TOR

Kane, Patrick (5 250 000 $ retained)

Détails additionnels:

I've seen lots of people saying Nylander would need to go the other way. If you throw Nylander in the deal + additional assets then what's the point in even making the deal? Trading a 25-year-old star player for a 33-year-old veteran with one year left on his deal.

CHI

Kerfoot, Alexander
Robertson, Nicholas
Steeves, Alex
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (TOR)

Détails additionnels:

Kerfoot is a "cap dump" I guess, however, he's a great player and is only owed $750k in real cash this season. He would fetch a nice return for the Hawks at the deadline. It's clear that in a trade for Kane the Hawks want futures. It'd be hard to not want to get your hands on a prospect like Nick Robertson. If it weren't for bad luck with injuries, while also playing for one of the deepest forward groups in the league, he'd already be in the NHL. The first-round pick would fetch Chicago another high-end prospect and Alex Steeves is a good prospect too.

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2023
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2025

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
21	82 500 000 $	77 855 616 $	212 500 $	0 $	4 644 384 $

Formation

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Bunting, Michael 950 000 $950 000 $ AG UFA - 1	Matthews, Auston 11 640 250 $11 640 250 $ C UFA - 2	Kane, Patrick -2 625 000 $-2 625 000 $ AD NMC UFA - 1
Nylander, William 6 962 366 $6 962 366 $ AD UFA - 2	Tavares, John 11 000 000 $11 000 000 $ C, AG NMC UFA - 3	Marner, Mitchell 10 903 000 $10 903 000 $ AD UFA - 3
Engvall, Pierre 2 250 000 $2 250 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1	Kämpf, David 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ C UFA - 1
Simmonds, Wayne 900 000 $900 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 1	Gaudette, Adam 750 000 $750 000 $ C, AD UFA - 1	Järnkrok, Calle 2 100 000 $2 100 000 $ AD, C, AG M-NTC UFA - 4
		Aubé-Kubel, Nicolas 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ AD UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Rielly, Morgan 7 500 000 $7 500 000 $ DG NMC UFA - 8	Brodie, TJ 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ DG/DD NTC UFA - 2	Murray, Matt 4 687 500 $4 687 500 $ G M-NTC UFA - 2
Muzzin, Jake 5 625 000 $5 625 000 $ DG NTC UFA - 2	Liljegren, Timothy 1 400 000 $1 400 000 $ DD RFA - 2	Samsonov, Ilya 1 800 000 $1 800 000 $ G UFA - 1
Sandin, Rasmus 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ DG UFA - 2	Holl, Justin 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 1
Giordano, Mark 800 000 $800 000 $ DG UFA - 2

Unités spéciales

Avantage numérique 1
Marner, M.		Tavares, J.		Kane, P.
	Rielly, M.		Matthews, A.

Avantage numérique 2
Nylander, W.		Gaudette, A.		Bunting, M.
	Sandin, R.		Järnkrok, C.

Infériorité numérique 1
	Kämpf, D.	Marner, M.
	Muzzin, J.	Brodie, T.

Infériorité numérique 2
	Järnkrok, C.	Engvall, P.
	Rielly, M.	Holl, J.

28 août 2022 à 12 h 34

MoreHitzSeider

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Hawks will get better prospects in a Kane (retained) trade.

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28 août 2022 à 12 h 36

NickC1988

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Quoting: MoreHitzSeider

Hawks will get better prospects in a Kane (retained) trade.

Yes, and if there's an extension in place, it'll be even more.

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28 août 2022 à 12 h 36

Theozler

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I’m in the fence. I could see knies being the ask over Robertson

28 août 2022 à 12 h 39

IconicHawk

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Quoting: Theozler

I’m in the fence. I could see knies being the ask over Robertson

That’s only if there’s an extension on place if not we can find better prospects then Robertson who is so fragile he shatters when a microscopic spec grazes him

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28 août 2022 à 12 h 46

MoreHitzSeider

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Quoting: NickC1988

Yes, and if there's an extension in place, it'll be even more.

Definitely

28 août 2022 à 12 h 47

MoreHitzSeider

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Quoting: Theozler

I’m in the fence. I could see knies being the ask over Robertson

Knies and Niemela. I still think Patty Kane ends up a Ranger because I want to see him playing with Breadman again. 😁

tsyls, QualityTrades1 et Garak a aimé ceci.

28 août 2022 à 12 h 59

Scooter81

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No possible. They would be over the cap limit.

28 août 2022 à 13 h 0

exo2769

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I don't think Steeves is the prospect the Hawks are looking for. The Hawks have pretty close ties to the UND program including (2) current prospects and off the top of my head 5+ others like Hino, Gilbert, Cam Morrison, Johns etc... when Steeves left there wasn't any broad discussion about the Hawks (nor Steeves) having any interest.

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28 août 2022 à 13 h 7

tsyls

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Yeah it would probably take Knies and Niemela to even get the conversation started.

28 août 2022 à 13 h 10

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JAKE6

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Quoting: tsyls

Yeah it would probably take Knies and Niemela to even get the conversation started.

so our 2 top prospects for 1 year of kane? no thx

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28 août 2022 à 13 h 18

#11

CoachCoach

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CF does allow three way trades under the “trade machine” tab in the top right.

Also if you look up arm chair GMs by team, click Toronto and you can see numerous different scenarios in which this exact idea is discussed.

As of now I’ve seen everything from: Kane to Toronto for Muzzin and Kerfoot…. All the way to Kane to Toronto for Knies, Sandin, Robertson, Nylander, Holl, and a first round pick.

My personal favorite was Kane at 25% to Toronto with a ARI 2023 2nd for Kerfoot, Holl, and TOR 2023 1st.

28 août 2022 à 13 h 32

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GenXHockey

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Quoting: IconicHawk

That’s only if there’s an extension on place if not we can find better prospects then Robertson who is so fragile he shatters when a microscopic spec grazes him

This tells me you didn't see either of his injuries.

28 août 2022 à 13 h 40

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tsyls

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Quoting: jake4leafs

so our 2 top prospects for 1 year of kane? no thx

That’s okay, other teams will pay. It’s the price you pay to make a push in the playoffs. Leafs literally spent a 1st round pick on Nick Foligno 🤣

Look at Tampa, spent 2 1sts on Hagel. He had some term so different story.

But to win in the playoffs, most teams have to add, you need to pay the price for quality. If you don’t want to pay the price for kane, that’s alright, I’m sure another team will.

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29 août 2022 à 21 h 48

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NickC1988

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Quoting: MoreHitzSeider

Knies and Niemela. I still think Patty Kane ends up a Ranger because I want to see him playing with Breadman again. 😁

I agree, I think Rangers see the East is pretty much wide open. I think Tampa took a significant step back, Toronto didn't get better, and Florida lost A LOT of depth both up front and on D (Specifically LD). Who is going to compete against them? They got a lot of important experience and kept mostly everyone. They'd have two 1st lines if they acquire Kane.

30 août 2022 à 20 h 53

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