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The Classic Dvorak to Col

Créé par: RichardAvs
Équipe: 2022-23 Avalanche du Colorado
Date de création initiale: 23 août 2022
Publié: 23 août 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Dach signs with MTL quickly after
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
UFAANSCAP HIT
11 135 000 $
1750 000 $
Transactions
COL
  1. Byron, Paul (1 700 000 $ retained)
  2. Dvorak, Christian
MTL
  1. Ambrosio, Colby [Liste de réserve]
  2. Compher, J.T.
  3. Kaut, Martin
  4. Choix de 6e ronde en 2024 (COL)
  5. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (COL)
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $82 500 000 $25 000 $3 562 500 $0 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AG, C
NMC
UFA - 7
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6 300 000 $6 300 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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9 250 000 $9 250 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 3
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 5
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
4 450 000 $4 450 000 $
C
UFA - 3
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
6 125 000 $6 125 000 $
AD, AG
NMC
UFA - 8
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
912 500 $912 500 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
908 333 $908 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C, AG
RFA - 1
1 135 000 $1 135 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
1 050 000 $1 050 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
987 500 $987 500 $
DG/DD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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4 100 000 $4 100 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 5
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
G
UFA - 3
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
DG/DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 5
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
762 500 $762 500 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2

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23 août 2022 à 16 h 24
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There's no reason Montreal would consider that.
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23 août 2022 à 16 h 26
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If he's not a competent 2c on a garbage team, he won't be on the Avs. Not sure if you've watched Ambrosio, but they wont move him for a non impact player. Thanks for Lehk.
23 août 2022 à 16 h 26
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Swap Ambrosio for Beaucage and take out the 6th and it's a deal
23 août 2022 à 16 h 33
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Quoting: Burnout
There's no reason Montreal would consider that.


Ambrosio is prospect Dvorak
23 août 2022 à 17 h 17
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If he's not a competent 2c on a garbage team, he won't be on the Avs. Not sure if you've watched Ambrosio, but they wont move him for a non impact player. Thanks for Lehk.


I've seen this by a bunch of non MTL fans who didn't watch him at all last year and I'm not sure where this idea that Dvorak became some sort of cap dump all of a sudden comes from? He had a good season last year despite almost everyone on the team having down years.

No one is thinking Chychrun is a garbage player because he played on a bad Arizona team last year.... It would be no different for Dvorak in MTL this past year. A whole year under MSL and healthy would drive the price up a whole lot and I don't doubt he can do it.

Dvorak was on fire once Ducharme was let go and MSL came in. Similar to Caufield. Was almost a PPG under MSL. Dvorak had statistically one of his best seasons in the NHL despite getting injured and having half a season ruined by Ducharme. He's no superstar but man I think ppl are so used to seeing Habs fans defend Byron, Armia, etc etc nonsensically that they are attributing it to every player on the team not named Suzuki or Caufield.

Dvorak is undoubtedly the Habs #2 centre right now and not a player the Habs will just trade for the sake of trading. He's young, relatively cheap for what he does, young and is signed long term to a very digestible contract. He would be a lock for 50-60+ points in a healthy year in COL. He was on pace for 50 on a terrible Habs team last year for crying out loud.

I don't think the Habs can get a 1st and a 2nd like what they originally paid for him but a late 1st from a contender like Colorado is the ask IMO and I can see the Habs getting it from someone this year. If they were only looking for the above offer from OP, the deal would have been done already.
23 août 2022 à 17 h 21
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This doesn't seem very good for Montreal.
23 août 2022 à 17 h 27
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This doesn't seem very good for Montreal.


Wrong
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23 août 2022 à 17 h 39
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Wrong


Sure Rich sure
23 août 2022 à 17 h 44
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Sure Rich sure


Whalers are gone
23 août 2022 à 18 h 2
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No reason for MTL do consider such a trade
23 août 2022 à 18 h 6
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id do this but without byron. it's steep tho. theres not much of a difference between compher and dvorak.
23 août 2022 à 18 h 8
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Whalers are gone


Well that's just mean.
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23 août 2022 à 18 h 25
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id do this but without byron. it's steep tho. theres not much of a difference between compher and dvorak.


Besides face off wins
23 août 2022 à 18 h 27
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Besides face off wins


sure but i'm of the option that faceoffs don't really matter.
23 août 2022 à 18 h 28
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Ambrosio is prospect Dvorak


At 20, Dvorak was a 2.0 PPG player in the OHL and finished tied for 4th in scoring for the US WJC team. Ambrosio didn't even hit top-6 in points for his college team. Dvorak is 6'1 200 lbs. and Ambrosio is 5'9 165 lbs.

I cannot fathom how you could think Ambrosio is prospect Dvorak.
23 août 2022 à 18 h 30
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At 20, Dvorak was a 2.0 PPG player in the OHL and finished tied for 4th in scoring for the US WJC team. Ambrosio didn't even hit top-6 in points for his college team. Dvorak is 6'1 200 lbs. and Ambrosio is 5'9 165 lbs.

I cannot fathom how you could think Ambrosio is prospect Dvorak.

Is Dvorak a 2.0 PPG player now? Maybe we can trade Yakupov for Dvorak because he was a 3.0 PPG player in the OHL
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23 août 2022 à 18 h 31
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sure but i'm of the option that faceoffs don't really matter.

Remember when Bednar would start Kadri 3v3 in OT and then he left the ice as soon as he took the face off?
23 août 2022 à 18 h 32
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Remember when Bednar would start Kadri 3v3 in OT and then he left the ice as soon as he took the face off?


avs were a bottom 5 team in faceoffs last season and bottom 3 in the playoffs.
23 août 2022 à 18 h 33
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Is Dvorak a 2.0 PPG player now? Maybe we can trade Yakupov for Dvorak because he was a 3.0 PPG player in the OHL


I'd prefer if Montreal were to move Dvorak, that they'd get a pick or prospect that has a realistic shot at being what he is in the NHL. Its a surprise if guy with Ambrosio's current track record can even stick in the AHL long term.
23 août 2022 à 18 h 34
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avs were a bottom 5 team in faceoffs last season and bottom 3 in the playoffs.


But still had one guy who could win face offs. Not saying face offs win games, but you want at least one guy who can do them besides Landeskog
23 août 2022 à 18 h 36
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But still had one guy who could win face offs. Not saying face offs win games, but you want at least one guy who can do them besides Landeskog


i get where you're coming from but it's just not necessary to me.
23 août 2022 à 18 h 51
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At 20, Dvorak was a 2.0 PPG player in the OHL and finished tied for 4th in scoring for the US WJC team. Ambrosio didn't even hit top-6 in points for his college team. Dvorak is 6'1 200 lbs. and Ambrosio is 5'9 165 lbs.

I cannot fathom how you could think Ambrosio is prospect Dvorak.


If you got to watch them play, you would see the comp. Ambrosio will be a bottom 9 multi-tool for the Avs if/when he makes it, much like Compher is currently. He's ok to fill in but, you do not want JTC/Dvorak/Ambrosio on your second line going for a cup. Even worse, restricting what you can pay your core guys the following season.
24 août 2022 à 0 h 53
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The Avs - Habs trade is a lose-lose for both teams.
I get the ACGM fun in trying out trades, but in real life, this is utterly pointless for both teams.
24 août 2022 à 12 h 11
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The Avs - Habs trade is a lose-lose for both teams.
I get the ACGM fun in trying out trades, but in real life, this is utterly pointless for both teams.


go to bed, stooge
24 août 2022 à 13 h 19
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go to bed, stooge


Aaaahhh poor little kid got his ego hurt I see
 
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