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Zibanejad should be higher, Matthews over MacKinnon (if you even mention the playoffs I swear to god, he has two straight rocket trophies) and Eichel and Couturier are too high. otherwise it's not bad

Mackinnon IS a beast in the playoffs, why can’t that be taken into consideration?

I'd drop Mackinnon down a couple spots tbh

Matthews > McKinnon. Tavares (right now) is better than everyone up to zabinejad. Not sure Barzal or Peterson or couturier make the top 20.

I think 2-4 are fairly interchangeable, drai I guess does play some wing but I still consider him a c

Draisaitl is too high, he's not as good as Barkov or Point. Lindholm isn't a top 20 centre either. He's a guy who gets a lot of points off better linemates.

Draisaitl gets over half his points with McDavid on the ice with him. Whether it's on the PP or the still large amounts of time he plays on the same line.

Tavares is not better then everyone up to Zibanejad lol

Holy crap. Imagine thinking O'Reilly isn't better than nearly half of those.

I’m sure matthews and marner have fairly high amount of shared points. If it was that easy everyone would be putting up those points with mcdavid

Mine go 1.mcdavid 2.mackinnon 3.matthews

Until EDM or TOR win anything, you have to rate Sid and now Mack higher
Draisaitl is connors geno, his wingman, the robin to Batman… I know he’s good but at the end of the day Connor and Leon put up all the points bc their power play clicks at 30% and the coach plays then together whenever he wants to win… like EDM has been so badly mismanaged I hope their good players either find a way to win or just leave

Yeah, he is

this is such a bad take lmao, like we get it u hate him, but that's so bias lmao

Miller just had 99 points. He’s better then Tavares

Point is too high

Not saying the playoffs aren't important, but Matthews career pro rated goal average is 52, he already has more regular season goals, and MacKinnon has no major awards outside of a Calder. If we're comparing careers, Matthews easily wins, and if we're comparing last season.. well, Matthews won the Lindsay and was actually really good in the Tampa series (4G5A in 7 games). By almost any conceivable metric, Matthews is better than MacKinnon. An argument could even be made that Matthews is the best center in the league right now, since he won the Lindsay last season, but after that playoff run from McDavid, I don't think anyone can rationally make that argument.

Right now in the league, I think there are 5 players who are just in their own tier, McDavid, Makar, Draisaitl, Shesterkin, and Matthews (not in that particular order). Guys like Hedman and MacKinnon are obviously elite, generational, future hall of famers, however you wanna describe them, but those 5 are just different.

Bergeron still better than Aho, Eichel, Point.
Couturier seems a bit high, especially coming off a pretty long injury. other than that p good list

I’d swap vas for shesterkin then I’d agree

What a ridiculous take. Point was a minus player on a great team two years in a row. He put up 28 goals while Draisaitl put up 50 and well over 100 points. They’re both elite but the gap between them is immense. I can kind of see Barkov ahead of Draisaitl but still not really. 30 or 40 goals and 80 or 90 points is great but is not one bit close to 55 goals and 110 points.

Notice the word "right now"

If you take their careers, I'd put Vas over Shesty, but at the moment Igor is just on a different level. Whether he can maintain a Vas-like level is up for debate, but last season Shesterkin was better than Vasy, and I say that as both a Rangers and Lightning fan

Are you seriously suggesting Crosby and MacKinnon should be rated ahead of McDavid and Draisaitl? Seriously?

I get what you’re saying, I feel bad was recent enough that it’s applicable, but just my view

Mcdavid and Draisaitl haven’t won and until they do, they can’t be called the greatest anything