The Leafs and MLSE have a bunch of high priced executives. Shanahan and his execs seemed to be "Missing in Action" during contract negotiations. Obviously contract negotiations is not a strong point for Dubas but I blame total Leaf management for not getting more reasonable deals for some players. Other comparables were out there but for some reason the Leafs paid a "hometown premium"

That’s not remotely true lmao

It's really not far off. Gibson hasn't been good for 4 years.

Playing for Anaheim will hurt your stats

Playing for Anaheim will hurt your stats

But not Ottawa? That's weird

You better hope playing for Trotz doesn't help goalies stats as he's gone

Matthews and Dubas said longer term was discussed but the average would have been higher and they compromised. Matthews said at the time he loves it in TO and wants to stay. Next summer he'll resign on an 8 year deal. And everyone will have to come up with a new reason why TO will never be good despite them being really good.

What does that have to do with Gibson

Some argue that goalie play is fairly independent of teams. You seem to be arguing it's dependent on teams. As your team has had great goaltending for for 4 straight years. That happens to coincide with one of the best defensive coaches of his generation being your coach. If those who argue coach's/teams strongly influence goalie play were right I'd be nervous as an islanders fan

That’s not remotely true lmao

Playing for Anaheim will hurt your stats

Playing for ottawa doesnt? And goalies save about the same amount of shots on a good or a bad team. Bad teams just allow more. Gibson has allowed a much higher percentage of those shots over the past 3 seasons

It really is. Gibson has been a bottom 3 starting goalie in the league for 3+ years now. Every single stat yiu could dream of shows it. The only thing gibson has over murray in a good while is health

Gibson was good this year before Anaheim traded Lindholm and Manson… I’m sure that impacted him

I believe Murray could bounce back. But I don’t trust him more than Gibson.

Murray was bettet this season before he got hurt. And gibson had those guys the past 2 years+ before. Any goalie can have a good partial season.

Murray was bettet this season before he got hurt. And gibson had those guys the past 2 years+ before. Any goalie can have a good partial season.

Goalies r weird tbh. But I’d still put Gibson in my top ten nhl goalies tbh.

You're not the only one. Dont think ive seen a goalie get this much runway ever, though hart is right there

Gibson was really good for a long time. He’s had bad luck but I still believe in him

Well at this point he's been real real bad about as long as he was real real good, it's not impossible he finds his game, but the late 20s is when time starts to catch up with everyone, i just dont think it's likely

Murray hasn’t been good since Pittsburgh

I think he resigns, but could see another 5 year deal which gives him option to sign one more deal - maybe back in ‘zona or down south. I would prefer 8 years, but would be ok with that.