I don’t think it would be too supersizing to see Detroit struggle. Their defense is still very bad spent all this money to be a decent team at best.

You’re correct but, the concept of why it was done was to inject a culture shock into the roster with a new coach and regime. Also, creating healthy competition for our young players and prospects to crack the lineup.

The forwards are fine, they should have tried to improve their defense.

Umm…no. Boston not trading Lysell. They have cap issues next year if Pasta resigns. They can’t be signing big extensions til that is resolved. Need to hold on to 1sts.

I mean they did. Chiarot & Maata are very good stay at home defensemen and Edvinsson should make the roster as well. So that’s a completely revamped left side. How that will translate on the ice; we shall see.

As good as Bertuzzi would be in Boston they can't afford him next year. Maybe if they know Pasta isn't going to resign they go for something like that to try and stay competitive. That said if Pasta isn't going to resign they should probably rebuild.
I don't think LA can afford Larkin next year either. Alot of players to resign that will get raises.

Brandt Clarke is not available. The Kings need top-tier defense more than they need another center.

You do know how sign and trades work correct?

Dylan Larkin with a sign and trade is worth more than Clarke and a mid 1st that's basically a rental price for Larkin not a sign and trade price.

Same with Tyler Bertuzzi Lysell and a late 1st doesn't get Bertuzzi with an extension, Since we assume the 3rd round pick is for Michael Rasmussen.

Just look at the cost for Mantha, Vrana+Panik+1st and 2nd round pick. Neither Bertuzzi or Larkin are remotely close.

I thought last year, the Lindholm trade made little sense for Boston, so it isn’t inconceivable they make another move to load up for a final playoff run with that core. I do agree that they would not and should not move Lysell.


Agree with all of it.


Yeah, Clarke is looking like a stud. I think the trade could work for Byfield instead of Clarke. He’s not looking too great tho, very early but he might be a bust.

And yet Detroit's current roster is still better than Buffalo's, On D Buffalo has Dahlin and Power and not much else. And Anderson and Comrie as their main netminders. Hardly instills any confidence.

Kings aren't looking to trade Byfield either. He is also looking like he'll be a stud, and unlike Larkin, he's going to be on a six-figure contract for at least another 2 seasons.

I’d have to disagree. Number one, the draft next year is deep, and it’s not guaranteed either of those teams will make the postseason and regardless, the draft is deep.

Lysell & Clarke are each of those teams top prospects and likely top 20–30 overall prospects in the NHL.

Vrana was not a player that was very highly touted, he’d shown flashes but wasn’t really anything to get super excited about. He’s been a pleasant surprise but still has only played like 30 games for us so, we’ll see what he can do with a full season.

I was always real high on Ukko Pekka-Luukonnen, I think he gets some solid action in net this year.

I mean, nobody is actively seeking to trade their top prospects but if an opportunity presented itself to acquire a player like Dylan Larkin (which it won’t), teams would have no issue moving a player like Byfield or even Clarke. The value isn’t off on either trade in my opinion, it’s just a matter of whether or not the stars align for that type of deal. And it won’t.

He might get his 9 games in towards the end of the season.

Umm, I think they did that with him last season. He should get a solid chunk of games in this year. He looks ready for it, to me.

Byfield hasn't even played a full season, too early to use the term bust.

We shall see.

Not calling him one; I just don’t get the feeling that he’ll be a special player when I watch him. He could be great. I don’t believe he will be tho. Still not calling him a bust.

Probably, they are both 80 point teams. Buffalo defense is much better. Both teams have tandem starters. Sabres are built for longer term success with their recent drafting.

As wonderful a player as Dylan Larkin is, we're fine at center for the near term, thanks.

Disagree with Buffalo having the better defense, If Edvinsson makes the team and he should. Both defense are about equal.

Husso+Nedeljkovic > Anderson+Comrie.

With Detroit adding both Copp, Perron and Kubalik the offenses should be as equal. And Detroit has just as much talent in their pipeline as Buffalo has.

Marco Kasper > Matthew Savoie.

Detroit had the worst defense in the league last season and they added Ben chiarot.. Sabres pipeline is definitely better which isn’t a knock on Detroit Sabres tore everything apart and have made 22 draft picks the past 2 seasons. 5 first round picks.

Idk why you’re singling out Chiarot when we keep mentioning Maata & Edvinsson. And BUF’s defense pipeline is not nearly at where DET’s is. We have probably 7 defense prospects that are all 1-3 years away from all being very good regular NHLers.