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17 août 2022 à 2 h 39
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Quoting: gary_gobbler
that's right, he is better defensively, he's also 2 years older and hasn't been playing on a rebuilding team his entire career. Hughes will get there.


Neither team has been spectacular since both players entered the league playing for their respective teams. Canucks have been better than the Devils in that time but not by much. I personally think both players have similar ceilings offensively
17 août 2022 à 2 h 42
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It took Hughes 30 seconds and two laps around the black box to produce a mini-Jack Hughes. EP couldn’t deliver a mini-Elias Pettersson until the draft.


Stop trolling
17 août 2022 à 5 h 31
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Stop trolling


This was humor. Lighten up. Its all good fun.
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17 août 2022 à 5 h 47
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This was humor. Lighten up. Its all good fun.


Sounded more like an insult than a joke
17 août 2022 à 8 h 16
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
Yes, Jack had a better year offensively than Petey last season, but what about over both players careers as a whole? I think Petey has scored at a higher rate from that vantage point


Why look at stats from Hughes when he was 18? Pettersson wasn’t even in the league at the age
Compare their stats when they were both 20 years old. Hughes has a better rate
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17 août 2022 à 9 h 36
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Sounded more like an insult than a joke


Seriously? Didn't mean any insult by it and I am sorry if I sounded that way.

I was talking about Hughes show at the all-star game. (with the "mini-Jack Hughes")
17 août 2022 à 10 h 42
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gonna go with hughes. personally i find pettersson overrated.
17 août 2022 à 12 h 9
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Quoting: Devil
Reading is hard for some people...

Person is saying Pettersson is better than Hughes because Pettersson is better defenisvely. I show an example of how being better defensively doesn't mean better overall. And somehow you twist my words.


I get that but Hughes isn’t good enough to be in that kind of comparison. An elite defensive centre is better than a Jack Hughes any time
17 août 2022 à 12 h 13
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Quoting: mondo
gonna go with hughes. personally i find pettersson overrated.


Hughes is the most overrated player by Capfriendly users
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17 août 2022 à 12 h 44
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Hughes is the most overrated player by Capfriendly users


Rent free lmao

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I get that but Hughes isn’t good enough to be in that kind of comparison. An elite defensive centre is better than a Jack Hughes any time


You still don’t know how to read. Got it
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17 août 2022 à 16 h 27
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You still don’t know how to read. Got it


Read this, Hughes is a light weight that breaks easily. Pettersson is an elite two way centre. There’s no debate give me a complete Swede over the little featherweight who breaks
17 août 2022 à 16 h 38
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Read this, Hughes is a light weight that breaks easily. Pettersson is an elite two way centre. There’s no debate give me a complete Swede over the little featherweight who breaks


They're the same weight. Wtf are you talking about
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17 août 2022 à 16 h 43
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I personally think Jack Hughes is more talented. Now you could argue there about the same. But I think Jack Hughes is slowly becoming a top Center in the League.
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17 août 2022 à 16 h 50
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Read this, Hughes is a light weight that breaks easily. Pettersson is an elite two way centre. There’s no debate give me a complete Swede over the little featherweight who breaks


This is a bad take my friend. I'm not a NJ or a nucks fan but Hughes is gonna be an elite center, his ceiling is much higher then peteys. No shade against Pettersson, great defensively but this isn't close, and it won't get any closer then it is now.
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17 août 2022 à 18 h 23
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Read this, Hughes is a light weight that breaks easily. Pettersson is an elite two way centre. There’s no debate give me a complete Swede over the little featherweight who breaks


Hate to break this to you, but Pettersson is also very small in weight and injury prone.
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17 août 2022 à 19 h 27
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Quoting: mondo
gonna go with hughes. personally i find pettersson overrated.


Talk about living under a rock
17 août 2022 à 19 h 27
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Quoting: EsoYeezus69
Hate to break this to you, but Pettersson is also very small in weight and injury prone.


He's not injury prone, just had some rotten luck last season
17 août 2022 à 19 h 27
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Quoting: ARMCHAIRGMOFTHEYEAR
I personally think Jack Hughes is more talented. Now you could argue there about the same. But I think Jack Hughes is slowly becoming a top Center in the League.


I don't see how the same can't be said for Pettersson
17 août 2022 à 19 h 28
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Seriously? Didn't mean any insult by it and I am sorry if I sounded that way.

I was talking about Hughes show at the all-star game. (with the "mini-Jack Hughes")


Oh okay, but your track record for making good fun in these forums as oppose to sounding biased isn't great
17 août 2022 à 19 h 29
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
I don't see how the same can't be said for Pettersson


I feel Hughes can be a top 5 Center and Petterson can be a top 15 center.
17 août 2022 à 19 h 31
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Quoting: ARMCHAIRGMOFTHEYEAR
I feel Hughes can be a top 5 Center and Petterson can be a top 15 center.


You've provided no evidence to support that claim. For all we know, Pettersson can be a top 5 center as well
17 août 2022 à 19 h 40
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
You've provided no evidence to support that claim. For all we know, Pettersson can be a top 5 center as well[/quote

For sure. Obviously, anything could happen. I have no real bias here I hate the devils and don't care for the canucks. Personally I think Hughes is a more skilled player

Analytically
Jack Hughes is better Offensively and defensively.
Elias Petterson has the better underlying analytics.

Statistically, Hughes has improved every year and was PPG last year
Petterson has been solid every year but hasn't made the big jump yet and not PPG.

Hughes is 2 years younger

The Eye test also tells me Hughes is a more skilled and talented player.
17 août 2022 à 19 h 42
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Pettersson was a PPG in his first two seasons, so don't tell me he isn't a PPG cause that's factual incorrect. How the hell is Hughes better defensively? He doesn't kill penalties while Pettersson does. Eye test means nothing for two players who aren't in their prime yet
17 août 2022 à 19 h 49
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Oh okay, but your track record for making good fun in these forums as oppose to sounding biased isn't great


Sorry you feel that way. If I have any track record of killing other people's fun, its the first I have heard of it.
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17 août 2022 à 19 h 52
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
Pettersson was a PPG in his first two seasons, so don't tell me he isn't a PPG cause that's factual incorrect. How the hell is Hughes better defensively? He doesn't kill penalties while Pettersson does. Eye test means nothing for two players who aren't in their prime yet


Technically he wasn't. he was just below PPG. So therefore it was Factually correct. Also I was just talking about last year anyway.

Also I said analytically wasn't nessarlily my opinion. But did Petey kill penalties in his rookie and sophomore season when he was 21? Genuinely not sure but he didn't have any SHP so he might not have played PK.
 
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