and i gave you a 4th liner who put up as many even strength points as a 'top line power forward'. if you think that comparing Matheson to defencmen who are better than him because he had more 5v5 points is any sort of take on him being good or under rated, well maybe you should think about that some. Here's a tid bit. One year of 5v5 scoring does not a good or under rated player make, especially when the other 95% of his career shows him as bad.

he shot 22.3% last year in chicago. that's called a hot streak, players, even the very best, do not shoot that high. Matthews has been the best goal scorer in the league since he started and he has a career average of 16.4%. Ovie is possibly the best goal scorer of all time and he has shot 12.9%.
He's not going to score like he did in Chicago unless he becomes the most efficient scorer of all time

Barkov and Pavelski shouldn’t be on here imo, and Matheson was very underrated in Pittsburgh, but very overrated in Florida. Personally, seeing Faulk be Mr. Brain Fart for a few years, he is very overrated. He’s good, but he isn’t that good.

Obviously but a player that can end a season with that shooting percentage deserves respect especially when the rest of his game is so reliable. He’s a good puck carrier and he is very responsible with the puck.

Faulk put up more 5 on 5 points than Adam Fox and Makenzie Weegar to name a few. The guy can play in every situation. That’s what makes a complete defenceman

2 good seasons in Pittsburgh has reset his career. The same happened for Ceci, he looked like a bust in Ottawa then Pittsburgh fixed him and he’s still doing well in Edmonton. All you did was pick a random Leaf and compare them to one of our forwards when we can’t score goals. Obviously our offensive numbers are going to stink

You might better ignore Jared he trolls everything related to the Habs. A lot of D men don't break out until they are 26 or 27, hell Jeff Petry is one of the best in the league but he never broke out until he was 29 in his second full year with the Habs. Since then he has consistently put up 40 points season while still being good defensively. Jared would probably argue that he is overrated too though, which says more about him than it does the players he evaluates.

No Leaf fan should dare to “troll the Habs”. You don’t pick on your big brother

one good season in pittsburg. he's 28, he didnt re-set anything. He simply had a good season on a good team. Lol at Ceci being fixed by the pens, he's still awful.
And no, all i did was pick a player who every one says isnt very good and compared him to one lots of people say is good in the same way you did. It's even funnier now that you tried that "obviously our offensive numbers are going to stink" when you picked defenders to compare Matheson to that played on the senators and detroit. Oh and you used the leafs defensive defender who isnt at all known for scoring like that's a valid comparison. Hilarious

lol, you think anyone who says anything bad about the habs is trolling, and then you block em because you cant take half what you dish out

big brother is the worst team in the NHL right now

And I mentioned players on good teams but I’ve figured you out, you saw I’m a Habs fan and couldn’t help yourself. Little brother mentality at its finest.

Even if that was true who cares? I’ve seen my team win 10 Stanley cups. You can’t even get out of the first round despite being “Canada’s team”

nah bro, your list is just bad. Hell, if the matheson trade hadnt happened you'd have put petry on the list in his place, I criticise bad AGM's no matter who puts em out, it's just always more amusing with habs fans because they are just so entitled and delusional about their own players.

lots of people care because the habs are the worst team in the league right now. And only jingoistic weirdos care about "canadas team"

I put one player who hasn’t even played a game yet for us and all the sudden that gets a rise out of you? My goodness pal you really get yourself wound up easily.

lol, you're trying so very hard to be combative here, it's adorable. We all know you put him there because he's a Hab and that's the only reason your defending him so, look how fast you gave up on Barkov!
You can try and push your own insecurities off on me, but we all know that you wouldnt care a lick about Matheson if he was still a pen.

He didn't do sh** during the regular season here or the first round of the playoffs . He broke his Foot game 3 against Florida up to that point he'd been meh at best. No way he's going to sustain a 22% shooting percentage not realistic. Those were 2 seperate points. Look when Taylor Raddysh took Hagels spot he put points up at the same place as Hagel matched Raddysh production playing in the same roll for TB. JBB got Fleeced on a one year unsustainable shooting percentage playing with a future first ballot hall of famer.

Mike Bossy Greatest goal scorer ever BAR NONE!!!

arguable! And even he didnt shoot at a 22% despite playing in the cocaine 80s most of his career

Hey buddy, don’t you remember? Big brother beat little brother 2 years ago, and managed to go the final, whereas little brother hasn’t been able to make it out of the first round for 18 years, and hasn’t won anything in what, 54? Big brother might be the worst in the league, but at least they are not the laughing stock of the league. That honor lies with little brother.

hey buddy, the Habs were the worst team in the league last year and will probably be there for the next few years.

Doesn’t matter. They at least have a future. Leafs can’t afford their future, and it’s questionable whether or not Matthews stays. So who knows, the Leafs might be in that very spot 2 years from now. I guess only time will tell.

yeah, they have a future as the worst team. It says a lot that all habs fans have here, in a thread about one of their defenders being "under rated" is trying to chirp the Leafs. Sure says a lot about how the matter stands eh? Cant defend your point so you gotta attack something unrelated to try and find that win. It's handy when everyone helps me prove my point like this though. Dude is hella over rated, and being a hab will only make it worse

21.2 close enough. Dude had a bad back his last 2 seasons he could barely lace his own skates up and still scored 99 goals in 143 games. 573 in 10 seasons 57.3 per