SalarySwishSalarySwish
Forums/Armchair-GM

Next season

Créé par: MakingHistory
Équipe: 2022-23 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 7 août 2022
Publié: 7 août 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
WPG
  1. Armia, Joel
  2. Dach, Kirby [Droits de RFA]
  3. Hoffman, Mike
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (FLA)
2.
TOR
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (PIT)
Rachats de contrats
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de VGK
Logo de MTL
Logo de CGY
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
2024
Logo de MTL
Logo de COL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de EDM
2025
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $77 226 666 $1 132 500 $5 070 000 $5 273 334 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 500 000 $$4M)
AD, AG
RFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
C
UFA - 8
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
4 450 000 $4 450 000 $
C
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
750 000 $750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
4 875 000 $4 875 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
875 000 $875 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
2 875 000 $2 875 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
842 500 $842 500 $ (Bonis de performance507 500 $$508K)
DG/DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 2

Code d'intégration

  • Pour afficher cette équipe sur un autre site Web ou blog, ajoutez ce iFrame à la page appropriée
  • Personnalisez les dimensions dans le code IFrame ci-dessous pour adapter votre site de manière appropriée. Minimum recommandé: 400px.

Texte intégré

Cliquer pour surligner
7 août 2022 à 17 h 34
#1
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juill. 2020
Messages: 15,738
Mentions "j'aime": 6,995
Dach and the first are a nice start, but the Jets don't have the cap space to waste on two cap dumps.

You'd need to add at least two firsts, one to dump Armia and one to dump Hoffman, but they'd need to be moved elsewhere.

You're best off trying next summer as there is very little chance Dubois is moved now, barring a spectacular offer.
Ploppz a aimé ceci.
7 août 2022 à 17 h 45
#2
Mr.
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: déc. 2021
Messages: 153
Mentions "j'aime": 101
This is the first pretty decent offer for Dubois I've seen on here. But like Windjammer says, taking on Hoffman and Armia who's an overpayed 4th liner isn't very likely at all.

Maybe Kirby Dach, FLA's 1st round pick and Anderson is a more reasonable offer? I'm pretty sure the Habs would think such an offer is too much to give up tho.
It also completely depends on what kind of season Dach has. Does he have 1C or 3C potential, we don't know just yet!
7 août 2022 à 17 h 47
#3
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juill. 2015
Messages: 282
Mentions "j'aime": 135
Quoting: Windjammer
Dach and the first are a nice start, but the Jets don't have the cap space to waste on two cap dumps.

You'd need to add at least two firsts, one to dump Armia and one to dump Hoffman, but they'd need to be moved elsewhere.

You're best off trying next summer as there is very little chance Dubois is moved now, barring a spectacular offer.


I hope Dubois gets traded to another team soon so my fellow habs fans would move on cause it’s kinda repetitive
Windjammer, Mr_Canoehead et Ploppz a aimé ceci.
7 août 2022 à 17 h 49
#4
MisstheWhalers
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: janv. 2019
Messages: 23,651
Mentions "j'aime": 12,371
Change Hoffman to Dvorak, add in Kidney and its a deal.
7 août 2022 à 17 h 54
#5
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juill. 2015
Messages: 282
Mentions "j'aime": 135
Quoting: Ploppz
This is the first pretty decent offer for Dubois I've seen on here. But like Windjammer says, taking on Hoffman and Armia who's an overpayed 4th liner isn't very likely at all.

Maybe Kirby Dach, FLA's 1st round pick and Anderson is a more reasonable offer? I'm pretty sure the Habs would think such an offer is too much to give up tho.
It also completely depends on what kind of season Dach has. Does he have 1C or 3C potential, we don't know just yet!


Yeah Dach + a first + Anderson is getting a little too rich from my perspective. I think this Dubois is dead as habs got not cap space
Ploppz a aimé ceci.
7 août 2022 à 17 h 55
#6
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juill. 2015
Messages: 282
Mentions "j'aime": 135
Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Change Hoffman to Dvorak, add in Kidney and its a deal.


Habs decline
7 août 2022 à 18 h 5
#7
Habs_fan
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juill. 2020
Messages: 677
Mentions "j'aime": 159
Why give up so much for a player you can get for free in two years. It's not like adding Dubois now makes the Habs a Cup contender anyway. Just be patient. Let's see what Suzuki and Dach can do as a one two punch down the middle and evaluate if we even need Dubois in two years.
Ploppz et Campabee a aimé ceci.
7 août 2022 à 18 h 8
#8
Mr.
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: déc. 2021
Messages: 153
Mentions "j'aime": 101
Quoting: Jacko
Yeah Dach + a first + Anderson is getting a little too rich from my perspective. I think this Dubois is dead as habs got not cap space


Yeah I do agree that it's a lot. There's also a great chance you'll get him anyway in 2 years when the team is more playoff ready! No need to move heaven and earth for him now
Campabee a aimé ceci.
7 août 2022 à 18 h 8
#9
MisstheWhalers
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: janv. 2019
Messages: 23,651
Mentions "j'aime": 12,371
Quoting: Jacko
Habs decline


Its really not even that much.
7 août 2022 à 18 h 11
#10
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juill. 2020
Messages: 15,738
Mentions "j'aime": 6,995
Quoting: Ploppz
This is the first pretty decent offer for Dubois I've seen on here. But like Windjammer says, taking on Hoffman and Armia who's an overpayed 4th liner isn't very likely at all.

Maybe Kirby Dach, FLA's 1st round pick and Anderson is a more reasonable offer? I'm pretty sure the Habs would think such an offer is too much to give up tho.
It also completely depends on what kind of season Dach has. Does he have 1C or 3C potential, we don't know just yet!


Winnipeg would have no interest in Anderson. He's not a cap dump yet, but heading that way quickly.
7 août 2022 à 18 h 21
#11
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juill. 2015
Messages: 282
Mentions "j'aime": 135
Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Its really not even that much.


Your asking Dach, Dvorak, Armia ,Kidney plus a 1st for Dubois. No way habs do this
Campabee a aimé ceci.
7 août 2022 à 18 h 21
#12
Mr.
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: déc. 2021
Messages: 153
Mentions "j'aime": 101
Quoting: Windjammer
Winnipeg would have no interest in Anderson. He's not a cap dump yet, but heading that way quickly.


Anderson can very well bounce back. I know that a lot of teams would like Anderson on their team cause they like the way he plays and I think the Jets management are amongst them tbh. It's just that his term Is a bit too much and too long.
7 août 2022 à 18 h 30
#13
MisstheWhalers
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: janv. 2019
Messages: 23,651
Mentions "j'aime": 12,371
Quoting: Jacko
Your asking Dach, Dvorak, Armia ,Kidney plus a 1st for Dubois. No way habs do this


Dach- quite possibly a bust, coming off a pretty bad season
Armia- essentially a cap dump at this point
Kidney- decent prospect who has yet to play a pro game
Dvorak- low end 2C/good 3C
Floridas 1st- likely mid to late

Yeah its really not that much.
7 août 2022 à 18 h 36
#14
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juill. 2020
Messages: 15,738
Mentions "j'aime": 6,995
Modifié 7 août 2022 à 19 h 12
Quoting: Ploppz
Anderson can very well bounce back. I know that a lot of teams would like Anderson on their team cause they like the way he plays and I think the Jets management are amongst them tbh. It's just that his term Is a bit too much and too long.


I certainly hope the Jets aren't one of the teams and I don't think they are if moving Dubois. Anderson's contract as you say, is too much for too long and it's unlikely the Jets will want to get older if they move Dubois.
Mr_Canoehead a aimé ceci.
7 août 2022 à 19 h 1
#15
Boris Bagel
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: oct. 2016
Messages: 2,830
Mentions "j'aime": 604
Habs pass
Campabee a aimé ceci.
7 août 2022 à 19 h 9
#16
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juill. 2015
Messages: 282
Mentions "j'aime": 135
Modifié 7 août 2022 à 19 h 17
Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Dach- quite possibly a bust, coming off a pretty bad season
Armia- essentially a cap dump at this point
Kidney- decent prospect who has yet to play a pro game
Dvorak- low end 2C/good 3C
Floridas 1st- likely mid to late

Yeah its really not that much.


Habs just traded a 13 OA for Dach so he’s far from bust territory and worth quite a bit…and that’s just him alone
I think you are setting yourself up for disappointment with expectations like this if a trade with any team goes down for Dubois imo
7 août 2022 à 19 h 31
#17
MisstheWhalers
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: janv. 2019
Messages: 23,651
Mentions "j'aime": 12,371
Quoting: Jacko
Habs just traded a 13 OA for Dach so he’s far from bust territory and worth quite a bit…and that’s just him alone
I think you are setting yourself up for disappointment with expectations like this if a trade with any team goes down for Dubois imo


What Montreal traded for him has no bearing whatsoever on whether Dach is a bust or not.

These aren't my expectations, I figure the Jets will get much less for Dubois but what I'm suggesting is hardly an overpay.

In what I'm suggesting there's six pieces being moved, the only sure thing of the six is Dubois.
7 août 2022 à 19 h 37
#18
Billy739
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: déc. 2017
Messages: 6,590
Mentions "j'aime": 1,629
PLD makes no sense until he's a UFA as he's not going to sign for less
Nor does him coming early and f'n us on a top 5 pick this year help us , just WPG
Not a single scenario with our Dcore i can think of in which this deal helps MTL today

Especially with Justin Holl as top RD which hurt more then how bad of an idea bringing PLD in now is.
Let WPG suffer another year and chances are his value drops again this year like it did last.(before PLD was top player mutliple 1st +++ now its a player and a 1st+
Declaring you want to be in MTL while trying to get a deal elsewhere hurt him most as far as trade options given him history (always asking for trades 2-3 years into a new team)
7 août 2022 à 20 h 17
#19
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juill. 2015
Messages: 282
Mentions "j'aime": 135
Quoting: MisstheWhalers
What Montreal traded for him has no bearing whatsoever on whether Dach is a bust or not.

These aren't my expectations, I figure the Jets will get much less for Dubois but what I'm suggesting is hardly an overpay.

In what I'm suggesting there's six pieces being moved, the only sure thing of the six is Dubois.


Actually what Montreal payed for him should give you the exact valuation of what habs value him at. Hardly bust value to anyone thinking rationally.

It doesn’t matter really anyhow…. Trade will likely won’t happen anyhow
7 août 2022 à 20 h 29
#20
MisstheWhalers
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: janv. 2019
Messages: 23,651
Mentions "j'aime": 12,371
Quoting: Billy739
PLD makes no sense until he's a UFA as he's not going to sign for less
Nor does him coming early and f'n us on a top 5 pick this year help us , just WPG
Not a single scenario with our Dcore i can think of in which this deal helps MTL today

Especially with Justin Holl as top RD which hurt more then how bad of an idea bringing PLD in now is.
Let WPG suffer another year and chances are his value drops again this year like it did last.(before PLD was top player mutliple 1st +++ now its a player and a 1st+
Declaring you want to be in MTL while trying to get a deal elsewhere hurt him most as far as trade options given him history (always asking for trades 2-3 years into a new team)


PLD and his agent are looking like grade A dbags in this whole thing.
 
Répondre
To create a post please Login or S'inscrire
Question:
Options:
Ajouter une option
Soumettre le sondage