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Defenseman moved newish looking 4th line

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Équipe: 2022-23 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 31 juill. 2022
Publié: 1 août 2022
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1 août 2022 à 13 h 37
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No thank you, our roster is set
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1 août 2022 à 13 h 43
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Buffalo has no need for either player.
1 août 2022 à 13 h 52
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That's an awful trade for the Pens
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1 août 2022 à 14 h 38
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I like Blueger, and Petterson is not a bad player, but I don’t know if Buffalo has room for either of these guys.
1 août 2022 à 15 h 19
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Hard pass on ZAR. Might as well just sign a traffic cone.
1 août 2022 à 16 h 47
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Buffalo doesn't need either player, nobody is debating that. Seems like a situation where the cost is so cheap that it's almost worth it to acquire and then try to flip them.
1 août 2022 à 17 h 36
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@JSEB93 that would be a great trade for the Sabres, you are correct.
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Buffalo has no need for either player.
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I like Blueger, and Petterson is not a bad player, but I don’t know if Buffalo has room for either of these guys.
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Buffalo doesn't need either player, nobody is debating that. Seems like a situation where the cost is so cheap that it's almost worth it to acquire and then try to flip them.
Among the returning defensemen only Samuelsson had a lower OZ% than Pettersson's 45.5% and no one had more hits than his 122.
Among the returning forwards, no one had more hits than Blueger's 87 and he had a higher FO% 53% than any Sabre.
Since Blueger and Girgensons are Riga, Latvia and Pettersson is from Sweden giving Buffalo another positive European connection.
While the trade reduces the number of draft picks, Buffalo moves from a fourth round to third round.
Due to injuries Buffalo had 9 defensemen who played at least 36 games last year and three others who played at least one game.
I think I would like to have Pettersson as one of my top 7 D-men and Blueger centering my fourth line.
I will respectfully disagree and make this trade.
Pettersson's contract does run through 2025, but Blueger would return a pick at the TDL from a team looking to improve their PK and bottom 6 forwards.
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1 août 2022 à 19 h 41
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JSEB93 that would be a great trade for the Sabres, you are correct.
Among the returning defensemen only Samuelsson had a lower OZ% than ePettersson's 45.5% and no one had more hits than his 122.
Among the returning forwards, no one had more hits than Blueger's 87 and he had a higher FO% 53% than any Sabre.
Since Blueger and Girgensons are Riga, Latvia and Pettersson is from Sweden giving Buffalo another positive European connection.
While the trade reduces the number of draft picks, Buffalo moves from a fourth round to third round.
Due to injuries Buffalo had 9 defensemen who played at least 36 games last year and three others who played at least one game.
I think I would like to have Pettersson as one of my top 7 D-men and Blueger centering my fourth line.
I will respectfully disagree and make this trade.
Pettersson's contract does run through 2025, but Blueger would return a pick at the TDL from a team looking to improve their PK and bottom 6 forwards.

The point isn’t whether either of them can be useful, the point is somebody has to be out of the lineup for them to play. Even if Bjork gets waived down to Rochester, I don’t know if Fitzgerald can be sent down without having to clear waivers which he wouldn’t. Bjork wouldn’t have been in the lineup anyway, so you’ll have to pick a forward and the defender who would have been in the top six that won’t be playing on a regular basis.
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1 août 2022 à 22 h 18
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The point isn’t whether either of them can be useful, the point is somebody has to be out of the lineup for them to play. Even if Bjork gets waived down to Rochester, I don’t know if Fitzgerald can be sent down without having to clear waivers which he wouldn’t. Bjork wouldn’t have been in the lineup anyway, so you’ll have to pick a forward and the defender who would have been in the top six that won’t be playing on a regular basis.
Excellent point and I agree.
As you said, Bjork would be sent to Rochester but only Samuelsson, Power and Pilut are waiver exempt.
You are most likely correct, I think I would rather have Pettersson and Blueger in Buffalo than Bjork and Pilut.
So let's agree to disagree as you make very valid points and Buffalo will not ice a team that will make the playoffs this year.
So while the trade greatly favors the Sabres, it is unlikely that it will be consummated.
2 août 2022 à 9 h 58
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Excellent point and I agree.
As you said, Bjork would be sent to Rochester but only Samuelsson, Power and Pilut are waiver exempt.
You are most likely correct, I think I would rather have Pettersson and Blueger in Buffalo than Bjork and Pilut.
So let's agree to disagree as you make very valid points and Buffalo will not ice a team that will make the playoffs this year.
So while the trade greatly favors the Sabres, it is unlikely that it will be consummated.

You’re right, but I don’t even think Pilut makes the immediate roster to begin with. If for some reason Pittsburgh offered this trade you take it, but both Blueger and Petterson should be in the lineup if you did. Considering that both Power and Samuelson are left side defenders who should be in the lineup, would the Sabres be sitting Bryson regularly in favor of Petterson when they just gave him a new contract? I don’t think so. Depth is always necessary, but can the Sabres trade for a guy and pay him $4 million to sit in the press box until there is an injury? I don’t think they would do that either. Blueger should play absolutely, but who sits in his place? I would like Girgensons out there with him so I wouldn’t want them trading off who gets to be scratched. Sure, Okposo can’t play every game, and Peterka and Quinn are not guaranteed full season roster spots, but they should play even over him if that’s the option.
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2 août 2022 à 10 h 20
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You’re right, but I don’t even think Pilut makes the immediate roster to begin with. If for some reason Pittsburgh offered this trade you take it, but both Blueger and Petterson should be in the lineup if you did. Considering that both Power and Samuelson are left side defenders who should be in the lineup, would the Sabres be sitting Bryson regularly in favor of Petterson when they just gave him a new contract? I don’t think so. Depth is always necessary, but can the Sabres trade for a guy and pay him $4 million to sit in the press box until there is an injury? I don’t think they would do that either. Blueger should play absolutely, but who sits in his place? I would like Girgensons out there with him so I wouldn’t want them trading off who gets to be scratched. Sure, Okposo can’t play every game, and Peterka and Quinn are not guaranteed full season roster spots, but they should play even over him if that’s the option.
Excellent synopsis of the pros and cons.
As you alluded Girgensons-Blueger-Okposo would be an excellent fourth line.
Remember when Murray was GM, we had five good top six Kane, Eichel, Reinhart, O'Reilly and Okposo, then start pulling names out of the hat.
Here they are during the 2015-2016 season followed by the goals scored:
Foligno 10, Girgensons 7, Larsson 10 this was a really good checking line.
Gionta 12. McGinn 14, Moulson 8, Legwand 5, Deslauriers 6, and Ennis 3 try to find four good mid six forwards out of the bunch.
The defense was even worse after trading away McNabb, Zadorov, Myers leaving only Ristolainen and McCabe:
Bogosian, Franson, Gorges, Pysyk, Weber, Nelson, and Colaiacovo, all would be 7th defensemen on nearly any team.
This trade would give Granato the opposite problem, TOO MANY OPTIONS.
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3 août 2022 à 11 h 15
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It's not about winning the trade , it's about the cap space the penguins would get with it. Cap space is king right now and the pens are going to have to pay for it.

It gets the pens under the cap , the pens don't lose anyone of too significance, they need to see what the young left d man they have , have anyways. Bluger is a dime a dozen , and is a free agent next year anyway.
 
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