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This is a terrible trade for the isles. Arguably worse than the Toews trade

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1 août 2022 à 10 h 31

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Hard to imagine the Isles agree to this considering the fact you asked for Robin Salo too. Dude isn’t a throw in. As crazy as it sounds Garth Snow was pretty good at drafting defenseman lmao.

Meanwhile I find it hard to believe Lou is gonna trade beau for this little unless he’s shedding additional salary in the deal. The Isles don’t have to sign Kadri. And if this is the price then Lou should be executed for Treason lol. Cause there is no other explanation for his bull**** rn.

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1 août 2022 à 10 h 33

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This is a terrible trade for the isles. Arguably worse than the Toews trade

Isles also can’t move Salo because he is their third pair guy next year. Hell he was playing with Dobson before the Romanov deal. There may have been a point where he was penciled in on the second pair!

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This is a terrible trade for the isles. Arguably worse than the Toews trade

It doesn't matter if it's bad though. What matters is if it's worse than the Bjorkstrand trade. That kinda set the precedent.

I get that it sucks for the Isles. Seems to be the price for signing a top ufa though.

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It doesn't matter if it's bad though. What matters is if it's worse than the Bjorkstrand trade. That kinda set the precedent.

Asking for the isles top D prospect and Beauvillier for Kaut (who will never be an NHL regular) is absurd. The difference is the isles aren’t being forced to move Beauvillier

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Can the isles have girard for a 3rd rd pick? That’s no different than what you’re doing here

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Salo goes from top prospect to throw in a trade

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Can the isles have girard for a 3rd rd pick? That’s no different than what you’re doing here

Again, it's all based on the Bjorkstrand deal. That's the best read on the market we have. Kaut for Salo can be dropped, but it's not easy to move money in this market.

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We don’t actually have verification Kadri has signed tho. But it’s a slow news week so I get it lol.

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Again, it's all based on the Bjorkstrand deal. That's the best read on the market we have. Kaut for Salo can be dropped, but it's not easy to move money in this market.

I agree to a point. But if league sources don’t buy Kadri to the isles as a lock then the Bjorkstrand trade isn’t a good comparison. It’s entirely dependent on their cap situation.

If Kadri really is going to the isles then Lou should tell him to go talk to other teams so someone believes they don’t need to move Beau Lmao.

1 août 2022 à 10 h 40

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Just send Kadri to talk to other teams. It shouldn’t be too hard for him to pretend he’s crazy lol.

Then move Beau and Bailey for fair value and sign him 😂

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Again, it's all based on the Bjorkstrand deal. That's the best read on the market we have. Kaut for Salo can be dropped, but it's not easy to move money in this market.

who said the isles wanted to move Beauvillier? There's no difference in trading Barzal and Beau.

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Oh I like this trade for the avs.. mostly because it's heavily favored towards them

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who said the isles wanted to move Beauvillier? There's no difference in trading Barzal and Beau.

Ok you lost me here lol.

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We don’t actually have verification Kadri has signed tho. But it’s a slow news week so I get it lol.

Sure, and I'm still hoping Colorado gets Kadri. I said before that he's a good signing for Colorado and a really bad signing for the Isles. If the latter does happen, this is kinda what the offseason indicates.

Obviously Lou should look for better deals, and he may find one. I didn't totally pull this out of nowhere. Salo plated 16 minutes per game, so let's not pretend he's some top pairing guy. And he just got moved further down with the Romanov trade. I may have missed the boat on that part, but it had to do with who is waivers exempt.

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Oh I like this trade for the avs.. mostly because it's heavily favored towards them

I like how fans like to take the isles top prospects and throw them into the deal like no one can see them.

No we don’t have a good prospect pool. That doesn’t mean you can take us for all we r worth either lol.

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Ok you lost me here lol.

Beau is just as important, if not more important to what the isles do than Barzal.

1 août 2022 à 10 h 43

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Salo is waivers exempt I think. But either way he’s not getting traded cause he didn’t play heavy minutes as a rookie. Dude will fill the Leddy/Toews role well enough on the 3rd pair. Not saying he is as nearly as good as either player. I’m just saying his role will be as the 3rd pair puck handler.

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no one said Salo projects as a top pair D, he's a likely #4 that run the 2nd PP unit, which is why hell be on the isles this season.

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Beau is just as important, if not more important to what the isles do than Barzal.

Find someone who looks at you the way Anthony Beauvillier looks at Mat Barzal — Anders Lee

Yeah in all seriousness I can’t 100% buy into that. But I get what your intention is.

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no one said Salo projects as a top pair D, he's a likely #4 that run the 2nd PP unit, which is why hell be on the isles this season.

Sometimes guys get undervalued cause they r being pushed down the depth chart. In truth I’m very confident in the isles d core because I think it’s 6 guys strong.

Again that is harder for other fanbases to evaluate tho. They aren’t watching Robin Salo with their clipboards out lol.

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1 août 2022 à 10 h 47

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Find someone who looks at you the way Anthony Beauvillier looks at Mat Barzal — Anders Lee

Yeah in all seriousness I can’t 100% buy into that. But I get what your intention is.

Beauvillier drives his own line, plays in all situations and is one of the best playoff performers in the league over the last 3 seasons.

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It was more that Aho is not exempt and would potentially get claimed if not on the roster. That and cap crunch. But yeah, we can leave the Salo/Kaut part out.

I will say that Kaut is an NHL regular if given the shot. His game is perfect for the Isles.

1 août 2022 à 10 h 48

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I don’t view Kuat as much more than a throw in rn. It’s not about the player as much as it is about the fact I haven’t seen him play recently. When you are dealing with a guy who hasn’t played much entering the last year of his ELC you have to understand that his value isn’t high. Kuat hasn’t even been exceptional at the AHL level.

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