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28 juill. 2022 à 18 h 1
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Laf is probably getting the same deal as Kakko unless he breaks out this year
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28 juill. 2022 à 18 h 6
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Didn't they get Halak?

Nm, just noticed it's next year, one year deal
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1. Wheres Chytil?
2. Likely moving at least one of Kreider or Trouba to make room for those deals.
3. Laf at least will probably be looking at something closer to the hughes deal. 8x8
28 juill. 2022 à 18 h 47
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Quoting: Canesfan21_
Laf is probably getting the same deal as Kakko unless he breaks out this year


If you ask me, Kakko would’ve earned a bigger payday if he didn’t miss half of the season. That injury gave management the perfect leverage to give him a “prove it” bridge deal. Lafreniere, on the other hand, appears to be in line for more top six minutes next season. He produces more on offense than Kakko and that’s going to drive up his contract.

My mindset specifically referred Lafreniere’s contract to Zibanejad’s five year deal (and K’Andre Miller to Brady Skjei’s six year deal). I have Laffy earning 6% of the salary cap, whereas Zibanejad earned a little more than 7% (he had greater production in Ottawa than Lafreniere has had in New York so far).


Quoting: slater417
1. Wheres Chytil?
2. Likely moving at least one of Kreider or Trouba to make room for those deals.
3. Laf at least will probably be looking at something closer to the hughes deal. 8x8


1. Not in New York. The Vincent Trocheck contract sealed the fate for his future with the Rangers. I can’t see him remaining a 3C, especially considering his next contract will probably be larger than that of Barclay Goodrow.

2. That is only possible through the buyout route. Even if Kreider or Trouba waived his NMC for whatever reason, the Rangers will end up paying a ransom to move them even when they’re good players. For comparison, it was reported that moving Jakob Voracek would’ve costed Columbus a 1st and more, yet he only has two years left of an $8.25M AAV salary.

3. That won’t happen unless Lafreniere breaks out as a point per game player like Jack Hughes did. It’s not impossible but the chances of that happening are probably around 10% at best.
28 juill. 2022 à 19 h 59
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You can probably miss at least one of Miller or Laf goodbye, more than likely with an offer sheet. And assuming either an offer sheet to one of those 2 don’t happen or an offer sheet is sent and matched, you can probably say goodbye to at least 1 of Lindgren or Schneider. One way or another, I can’t see NYR keeping all of their up and coming studs. I was already of the opinion that they will end up regretting signing Trocheck, but the likelihood they keep everyone is low. Kakko being resigned complicates things further as well.

As for the poll options you listed, the Rags won’t buyout Trouba with that penalty reaching until 2028, and Trouba won’t be waiving his NMC anytime soon. The Rags can’t afford to lose Lindgren, since it was very clear this postseason that when Fox didn’t have Lindgren, he was lost. There wasn’t a market for Puljujarvi, and he is busted an older Kakko, what makes you think that there will be a market for Kakko? At best you sell Kakko at a loss for where he was drafted.
28 juill. 2022 à 20 h 10
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You can probably miss at least one of Miller or Laf goodbye, more than likely with an offer sheet. And assuming either an offer sheet to one of those 2 don’t happen or an offer sheet is sent and matched, you can probably say goodbye to at least 1 of Lindgren or Schneider. One way or another, I can’t see NYR keeping all of their up and coming studs. I was already of the opinion that they will end up regretting signing Trocheck, but the likelihood they keep everyone is low. Kakko being resigned complicates things further as well.

As for the poll options you listed, the Rags won’t buyout Trouba with that penalty reaching until 2028, and Trouba won’t be waiving his NMC anytime soon. The Rags can’t afford to lose Lindgren, since it was very clear this postseason that when Fox didn’t have Lindgren, he was lost. There wasn’t a market for Puljujarvi, and he is busted an older Kakko, what makes you think that there will be a market for Kakko? At best you sell Kakko at a loss for where he was drafted.


Great, the offer sheet threats are back again. I already watched dozens of fans post this argument with Kaapo Kakko for the past four months only to no avail. I’m 100% unconcerned about the potential of that happening.

Now on the other hand, you’re correct, of course, about the Rangers having to lose one of their young assets like Lindgren (Schneider is still on an ELC so moving him doesn’t make sense). As you can see with this ACGM, that asset is Filip Chytil.

But why exactly are you so certain that the Rangers wouldn’t buyout Jacob Trouba? Six years is most definitely a pretty extreme buyout, but it didn’t deter the Minnesota Wild from stomaching three years of $14M dead cap followed by four more years of $1.6M. A trade is definitely much simpler, but I don’t understand why this option would already be off the table.

I also wasn’t trying to imply there would be a market for Kakko or even Lindgren for that matter. Cap dumping a quality player always brings back a terrible return. We saw it with Pavel Buchnevich. We saw it with Devon Toews. We will see it with more players too, such as Kakko. In an ordinary world Kaapo Kakko returns a 1st round pick (a la Kirby Dach) but dumping him probably only brings back a 3rd round pick.
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1. Wheres Chytil?
2. Likely moving at least one of Kreider or Trouba to make room for those deals.
3. Laf at least will probably be looking at something closer to the hughes deal. 8x8


I think that would be a strong move. I endorse.
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I think that would be a strong move. I endorse.


Why did you give @Devil your password?
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Why did you give Devil your password?


My password is Devil1122
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My password is Devil1122


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Why did you give Devil your password?


Quoting: NHLfan10506
My password is Devil1122


What happened to that Devil1122 guy? He was so weird
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What happened to that Devil1122 guy? He was so weird


That guy used to troll me as much as you do nowadays. Soul for soul
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If you ask me, Kakko would’ve earned a bigger payday if he didn’t miss half of the season. That injury gave management the perfect leverage to give him a “prove it” bridge deal. Lafreniere, on the other hand, appears to be in line for more top six minutes next season. He produces more on offense than Kakko and that’s going to drive up his contract.

My mindset specifically referred Lafreniere’s contract to Zibanejad’s five year deal (and K’Andre Miller to Brady Skjei’s six year deal). I have Laffy earning 6% of the salary cap, whereas Zibanejad earned a little more than 7% (he had greater production in Ottawa than Lafreniere has had in New York so far).




1. Not in New York. The Vincent Trocheck contract sealed the fate for his future with the Rangers. I can’t see him remaining a 3C, especially considering his next contract will probably be larger than that of Barclay Goodrow.

2. That is only possible through the buyout route. Even if Kreider or Trouba waived his NMC for whatever reason, the Rangers will end up paying a ransom to move them even when they’re good players. For comparison, it was reported that moving Jakob Voracek would’ve costed Columbus a 1st and more, yet he only has two years left of an $8.25M AAV salary.

3. That won’t happen unless Lafreniere breaks out as a point per game player like Jack Hughes did. It’s not impossible but the chances of that happening are probably around 10% at best.

Hughes wasnt a ppg player when he signed the deal, he had a very similar offensive season to the one laf just had in his d+2.
Hughes put up 31 points in 56 games while avg 19m per game.
Laf put up 31 points in 79 games while avg 14m per game.

8x8 would be on par with their relative productions, maybe 8x7m because hughes is a center and laf is a winger.

As for being expensive to move kreider or trouba, you're missing the fact that vorachek was not a good player last year in comparison to his contract. Kreider is out producing his deal, and trouba's deal is actually not terrible as you see from the newer defenseman contracts being signed. The flat cap def hurts the trouba deal, but CK would be easy to move and also receiving assets back, and not being forced to pay up.
 
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