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Ranking every teams top prospect volume 1

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Date de création initiale: 19 juill. 2022
Publié: 20 juill. 2022
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If you have an argument for who your teams top prospect is other than my choice please leave a comment for the second iterations.

What i view as a prospect. NHL player who is eligible for the Calder.

Prospects are ranked on a combination of their floor and their ceiling. For example, the floor of a Matt beneirs is a third line center and his ceiling is an all star center. Powers floor is a 2nd pairing d man while his ceiling is an all star d man. Basically the same thing at different positions but I view beneirs as having a higher ceiling therefore ranking him higher. This is not a knock on any prospect as I feel all of these prospects will make great NHL players. I except the argument that somebody will come in and say “but my teams player is a projected top 6FWD/top 4D” and my rebuttal to that literally every player on this list is in that category. No I don’t hate your player and players who are older are easier to project so for example Sanderson is projectable at the NHL level and his floor is much higher than a slafkovsky. Even tho slafkovskys ceiling is the third highest on the list, he is 4th because the floor is lower than a lot of other players being younger and harder to project.

Ones I am on the fence on-
CAL- between Pelletier or coronato
CAR- between kochetkov or morrow
CHI- between riechel, korchinsky, or nazar
CBJ- between Johnson or jiricek
EDM- between bourgault or Holloway
FLA- I honestly don’t know the pool that well but its between sourdif and mackie based on stats I rate higher
NSH- between askarov or kemell
NJD- could be L hughes or nemec
STL- between neighbors or bolduc
TOR- personally I believe Amirov is a better prospect but the fact that he hs had health concerns knocks him below a guy like knies
VGK- between dorofeyev, chayka, and brisson
WSH- between lapierre and miroschnichenko

Again, any argument for a certain player being over another I am all ears
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
3299 999 999 $29 322 503 $0 $10 817 500 $70 677 496 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Kraken de Seattle
Beniers, Matthew
897 500 $897 500 $ (Bonis de performance925 000 $$925K)
C
RFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
Power, Owen
916 667 $916 667 $ (Bonis de performance925 000 $$925K)
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Exempté du ballottageSanderson, Jake
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance925 000 $$925K)
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
Exempté du ballottageSlafkovsky, Juraj
950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 500 000 $$4M)
AD, AG
RFA - 3
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
Exempté du ballottageEklund, William
894 167 $894 167 $
AG
RFA - 4
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
Exempté du ballottageNemec, Simon
950 000 $950 000 $
DD
RFA - 4
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
Perfetti, Cole
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, C
RFA - 2
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
Exempté du ballottageEdvinsson, Simon
925 000 $925 000 $
DG
RFA - 4
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
Rossi, Marco
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C
RFA - 3
Cooley, Logan
950 000 $950 000 $
Askarov, Yaroslav
950 000 $950 000 $
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
Exempté du ballottageMcTavish, Mason
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
C, AG
RFA - 3
Logo de Stars de Dallas
Exempté du ballottageBourque, Mavrik
894 167 $894 167 $
C
RFA - 3
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
Exempté du ballottageJiricek, David
950 000 $950 000 $
DD
RFA - 4
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
Exempté du ballottageClarke, Brandt
894 167 $894 167 $
DD
RFA - 4
Gauthier, Cutter
950 000 $950 000 $
Logo de Bruins de Boston
Exempté du ballottageLysell, Fabian
894 167 $894 167 $
AD
RFA - 4
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
Exempté du ballottageBolduc, Zachary
894 167 $894 167 $
AG
RFA - 4
Logo de Flames de Calgary
Pelletier, Jakob
863 333 $863 333 $
AG
RFA - 2
Nazar, Frank
950 000 $950 000 $
Miroschnichenko, Ivan
950 000 $950 000 $
Lekkerimaki, Jonathan
950 000 $950 000 $
Logo de Rangers de New York
Exempté du ballottageOthmann, Brennan
894 167 $894 167 $
AG
RFA - 4
Howard, Isaac
950 000 $950 000 $
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
Exempté du ballottageBourgault, Xavier
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance177 500 $$178K)
AD
RFA - 3
Knies, Matt
950 000 $950 000 $
Morrow, Scott
950 000 $950 000 $
Logo de Islanders de New York
Exempté du ballottageRäty, Aatu
836 667 $836 667 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
C
RFA - 3
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
Exempté du ballottagePickering, Owen
950 000 $950 000 $
DG
RFA - 5
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
Exempté du ballottageBrisson, Brendan
925 000 $925 000 $
C, AG, AD
RFA - 3
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
Exempté du ballottageOlausson, Oskar
894 167 $894 167 $
AD
RFA - 4
Logo de Panthers de la Floride
Exempté du ballottageSourdif, Justin
847 500 $847 500 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
C
RFA - 3
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20 juill. 2022 à 0 h 14
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brendan brisson was nasty at michigan and played well in the AHL to end the year, i think you have him too low.
20 juill. 2022 à 0 h 15
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Oilers

1. Holloway

2. Broberg

3. Bourgault
20 juill. 2022 à 0 h 23
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Quoting: bagelbob
brendan brisson was nasty at michigan and played well in the AHL to end the year, i think you have him too low.


His numbers are very good in a vacuum for sure. I would say the one thing that knocks him to how low he is is the fact he was primarily playing with guys like beniers, bordeleau, and Johnson. I see him as the 3rd best guy above bordeleau personally. Michigan is a powerhouse and that’s what knocks him down a notch personally because he is playing with plenty of future stars. 4 top 5 draft picks will do that. I obviously think he will be very good and am willing to move him up to somewhere between above knies or below raty. Good stats but inflated at that. Could definitely see him move up playing with less talent this year either in the A or if decides to go back to NCAA
20 juill. 2022 à 0 h 25
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Oilers

1. Holloway

2. Broberg

3. Bourgault


I had Holloway originally but I wasn’t wowed with his AHL stats at all. Not nearly on par with other guys who played in the A on this list like Pelletier. He’s coming off a down year but since you are the oilers fan I’ll take your word at it. I don’t see it changing the ranking too much tbh. Maybe a slot up or a slot below.
20 juill. 2022 à 0 h 30
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I sure hope that you're right about Mason McTavish. When we took him over Luke Hughes I was appalled, and that was BEFORE last season at Michigan. Speaking of Hughes, imagine having as your two best prospects two potential future Norris Trophy candidates.
20 juill. 2022 à 0 h 36
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I sure hope that you're right about Mason McTavish. When we took him over Luke Hughes I was appalled, and that was BEFORE last season at Michigan. Speaking of Hughes, imagine having as your two best prospects two potential future Norris Trophy candidates.


I think he is going to be good. Nemec and hughes I have as literally the same so if I were to have hughes instead he would be in the same slot as nemec. Mctavish was seen as a reach at the time but I have liked his play in the NHL play and he performed decently at the OHL level again showing improvement from last year. Mctavish has a case to be even higher on this list and a case to be lower as well. I think his ceiling is a low end 1st line center high end second line center but I see his floor as possibly the highest on this list. The floor being so high is why I have him so high personally.
20 juill. 2022 à 0 h 40
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Quoting: Hurricanes73
His numbers are very good in a vacuum for sure. I would say the one thing that knocks him to how low he is is the fact he was primarily playing with guys like beniers, bordeleau, and Johnson. I see him as the 3rd best guy above bordeleau personally. Michigan is a powerhouse and that’s what knocks him down a notch personally because he is playing with plenty of future stars. 4 top 5 draft picks will do that. I obviously think he will be very good and am willing to move him up to somewhere between above knies or below raty. Good stats but inflated at that. Could definitely see him move up playing with less talent this year either in the A or if decides to go back to NCAA


i think he might start in the nhl tbh, with dadonov and pacioretty both gone it feels like the path is there for him to do so. bordeleau is such a weird one, his freshman year he was really driving play and looked honestly like the best one of all of them, but this year they stuck him in random spots down the lineup and he wasn't as game changing although he was still very good. i would personally put him (and raty and knies) up above howard, but it's ur list and who really knows lol
20 juill. 2022 à 0 h 42
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CBJ's top prospect going into this season is Marchenko imo. He's their most likely guy to compete for the Calder. Johnson or Jiricek may have him beat in long term potential, but Marchenko is a 22 year old, 6'3, 190 lb Russian RW coming over from 3 years of success in the KHL. He's experienced playing among men while Johnson and Jiricek are still trying to build NHL ready bodies. Marchenko is also staying through the summer to train in Columbus so he's doing everything he can to get used to the NHL ice now. Pretty excited to see what he can do this year.
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Quoting: bagelbob
i think he might start in the nhl tbh, with dadonov and pacioretty both gone it feels like the path is there for him to do so. bordeleau is such a weird one, his freshman year he was really driving play and looked honestly like the best one of all of them, but this year they stuck him in random spots down the lineup and he wasn't as game changing although he was still very good. i would personally put him (and raty and knies) up above howard, but it's ur list and who really knows lol


This is just a very rough first draft. I am open to changing the list plenty of times and this feedback will be used in the 2nd installment in this series after I get more feedback from other fans
20 juill. 2022 à 0 h 49
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I have the Wild as:
1. Wallstedt
2. Rossi

An argument can be made for either and it's a tossup for a lot of MN fans.
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CBJ's top prospect going into this season is Marchenko imo. He's their most likely guy to compete for the Calder. Johnson or Jiricek may have him beat in long term potential, but Marchenko is a 22 year old, 6'3, 190 lb Russian RW coming over from 3 years of success in the KHL. He's experienced playing among men while Johnson and Jiricek are still trying to build NHL ready bodies. Marchenko is also staying through the summer to train in Columbus so he's doing everything he can to get used to the NHL ice now. Pretty excited to see what he can do this year.


Although I like marchenko and I believe he has a higher floor than jiricek or Johnson, the ceiling of those two is much higher. Marchenko played well against men with 48 pts in 80 KHL games. Personally I think he is the most NHL ready prospect but not the best prospect in the jackets pool. I see him as similar to a jack drury for the canes. Obviously one played in the A and the other played in the K last season but the point of the argument is both are the most NHL prospects in their pools but not the best prospects in their respective pools. The ceilings of their peers being higher makes them lower even tho they are the most NHL ready. He is definitely a dark horse Calder candidate tho
20 juill. 2022 à 0 h 57
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I have the Wild as:
1. Wallstedt
2. Rossi

An argument can be made for either and it's a tossup for a lot of MN fans.


It really is a tossup. IMO rossi is higher but Wally has a strong argument for best goalie prospect in the NHL. Wallstedt and askarov are the top two with cossa as a 3 and then the floodgates are open to the rest of the league.
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20 juill. 2022 à 1 h 11
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It really is a tossup. IMO rossi is higher but Wally has a strong argument for best goalie prospect in the NHL. Wallstedt and askarov are the top two with cossa as a 3 and then the floodgates are open to the rest of the league.


MN's 3rd best prospect is where things get interesting. Is it Addison, Faber, Lambos, Ohgren, ROR, Peart, Yurov, or someone else?
20 juill. 2022 à 1 h 14
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MN's 3rd best prospect is where things get interesting. Is it Addison, Faber, Lambos, Ohgren, ROR, Peart, Yurov, or someone else?


Personally I give the edge to yurov. I predict he is looked back as a top 5 prospect in this draft. Tbh Minnesota has the best prospect pool now for how good it is at the top and how you have 6 guys competing for a 3 spot which 4 teams best prospect wouldn’t even compete for. Only other team that can say something like this is Buffalo and they aren’t as deep as the wild so that’s why they r my two
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20 juill. 2022 à 1 h 26
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Are we talking this coming season or overall pool? I am not seeing where you’re making the distinction. Overall pool, there’s no question at all Kent Johnson is Columbus’s top prospect, but with his slight frame I don’t see him threatening for the Calder this coming year. I agree with dk that Columbus’s most likely candidate for any kind of rookie awards is Marchenko, keeping with the trend of mid-20s Russians coming over after success in the KHL. Also, Jiricek is two years out at the earliest.
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Are we talking this coming season or overall pool? I am not seeing where you’re making the distinction. Overall pool, there’s no question at all Kent Johnson is Columbus’s top prospect, but with his slight frame I don’t see him threatening for the Calder this coming year. I agree with dk that Columbus’s most likely candidate for any kind of rookie awards is Marchenko, keeping with the trend of mid-20s Russians coming over after success in the KHL. Also, Jiricek is two years out at the earliest.


It’s based on where their floor is and where their ceiling is. That’s why a guy like Sanderson is above slafkovsky. The floor is much higher and it results in a higher average position. Johnson’s ceiling I see as the highest among the Columbus prospects and his floor is lower than a guy like Jiricek imo. Columbus comes down to Johnson and jiricek and I personally see jiriceks median career path being higher than the median of a guy like Johnson.
20 juill. 2022 à 5 h 25
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Stars best prospect is far and away Wyatt Johnston and probably followed by Logan Stankoven, Bourque would be a close 3rd.
 
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